I was talking about Toby Young.. I don't think he is a part of Ollie's coaching team.
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I heard the club are proposing offering supporters with season tickets in the rear 10 rows of the Ellerslie a 30% refund to reflect the amount of match time they won't see the ball. Seriously, I just pray that IH's tactics have genuinely moved on as the one thing we surely all crave is a return to proper football at Loftus Road. I don't think he is the one to deliver it sadly.
Rousing stuff. I'd sooner have people like him around and experiences like those of the last 25 years, than people I feel nothing for and to whom, our club is just a job.
The man cares passionately about the club, just like we do, and that interview made me feel good about what is to come. Why the **** are people moaning before we've even kicked a ball under Holloway? Our fans have been described as fickle, but that's not the right adjective is it? Fickle suggests changing attitudes, but most of our lot seem to be permanently ****ing negative.
Just read most comments in this thread since Ollie was appointed.
My heart is glad and I do think HQ will be rocking on 19th - until we go 2 or 3 down as is likely sadly. Delighted to be wrong of course.
It would be easy to write Ellers off as a negative moaner but he was dead right about Jimmy and my head is telling me he may well be right about Ollie too.
I was happy to allow heart to rule over head until I read about the 2.5 yr contract. I'm assuming Ollie or his agent insisted on that but that does not mean he should have got it. If he loves QPR that much, he should have accepted a 1 yr rolling.
Like all of you, I'll be busting a lung on the 19th - and hoping that Ellers is wrong!
My heart is glad and I do think HQ will be rocking on 19th - until we go 2 or 3 down as is likely sadly. Delighted to be wrong of course.
It would be easy to write Ellers off as a negative moaner but he was dead right about Jimmy and my head is telling me he may well be right about Ollie too.
I was happy to allow heart to rule over head until I read about the 2.5 yr contract. I'm assuming Ollie or his agent insisted on that but that does not mean he should have got it. If he loves QPR that much, he should have accepted a 1 yr rolling.
Like all of you, I'll be busting a lung on the 19th - and hoping that Ellers is wrong!
Stroller did you go to Vauxhall motors or Luton away (9 man game)? If so you would have seen how inept Holloway was. Can you not remember the cr2p football under him? I can and seeing some of that cr2p again doesn't excite me.
It's okay saying 'You love the club' (however he loved us so much he did a sneaky to Leicester). But love doesn't get results a good manager does.
Yeah I liked Holloway all those years ago and yes they were fun days but we have moved on. And as for moaning, if Dim Tim would have become manger would you have been happy?
Holloway good for some fans and not so good for others. I personally would put all the sentimental cr2p aside and judge him on his football, which by the way is not pretty.
RTID Agree I want him do turn us around but I cannot see it. For me he has been out of the game too long and he just looks old and tired. The young fresh funny Holloway is something from a good memory.
Although I will say that the crowd will warm to him more than they will others.
I am totally underwhelmed.
I didn't rate JFH when he was appointed but I didn't want him sacked after less than a year. I strongly supported Ian Holloway during his previous stint as manager but I really don't understand how he is an improvement on JFH. Some might point to his passion and his ability to motivate but the cynic in me wonders whether he just cost less than the other names in the frame.
I would have gone for just about any one of the bookies' favourites in preference to Holloway, even dim Tim the egomaniac, even retaining JFH. Holloway is a step backwards, not just a few years backwards (Warnock would be MUCH better) but back to the Stone Age. If the right man is not available today, why not appoint someone, even Ramsey, as an interim until the end of the season when the talent pool might be more attractive?
I always support my team, I do not boo them when they lose at home (even a 0-6 thrashing to Newcastle) and so I will not seek to undermine Holloway. I will not bay for his head when his teams struggle. But I don't see the logic in appointing yesterday's man who has never been put forward as a tactical innovator and who has a feeble track record in identifying or developing young talent. Add to that the head tennis style of football he presided over during his last spell at LR and I despair, I really do.
Would anyone out there offer serious odds of him lasting the two and a half years of his contract?
I am totally underwhelmed.
I didn't rate JFH when he was appointed but I didn't want him sacked after less than a year. I strongly supported Ian Holloway during his previous stint as manager but I really don't understand how he is an improvement on JFH. Some might point to his passion and his ability to motivate but the cynic in me wonders whether he just cost less than the other names in the frame.
I would have gone for just about any one of the bookies' favourites in preference to Holloway, even dim Tim the egomaniac, even retaining JFH. Holloway is a step backwards, not just a few years backwards (Warnock would be MUCH better) but back to the Stone Age. If the right man is not available today, why not appoint someone, even Ramsey, as an interim until the end of the season when the talent pool might be more attractive?
I always support my team, I do not boo them when they lose at home (even a 0-6 thrashing to Newcastle) and so I will not seek to undermine Holloway. I will not bay for his head when his teams struggle. But I don't see the logic in appointing yesterday's man who has never been put forward as a tactical innovator and who has a feeble track record in identifying or developing young talent. Add to that the head tennis style of football he presided over during his last spell at LR and I despair, I really do.
Would anyone out there offer serious odds of him lasting the two and a half years of his contract?
I am totally underwhelmed.
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Was thinking the same about looking old and tired. A strange appointment in my view. Really hope he has changed his ways regards the style of football. Genuine guy and I hope things don't turn sour for him.
Can't help feeling this is a case of 'Heart ruling head'.
I so hope I'm wrong and in a few months time I hope I'm raving about the magic im now seeing every time I see us play, and eating some very humble veggie pie.
Sadly, as with Jamie Mackie.....I'm not getting my hopes up
I so hope I'm wrong and in a few months time I hope I'm raving about the magic im now seeing every time I see us play, and eating some very humble veggie pie.
Sadly, as with Jamie Mackie.....I'm not getting my hopes up
You certainly can't dismiss his passion or emotion for the club. He's been appointed and I will support him 100%. Until he starts losing of course.
What also annoys me Nines is when it all goes wrong people will start disliking him.
Why didn't he just stay a Rangers legend instead of being like some old chump boxer making a stupid comback.
Did you witness the **** that was put out by Harry ****ing Redknapp and his bunch of multi-millionaire, couldn't-give-a-****, 'good lads'?
I know mate, and he knows that and is prepared to take that risk. There is of course the chance that the stars will align for him and he can make himself even more of a Rangers legend. You never know, I think he has got a better squad of players to work with this time than when he last became our manager. If he starts players in their right positions and gets them starting games on the front foot and have a Gameplan A and a Gameplan B it will be an improvement on our last four appointments. We're QPR fans we don't expect a lot, but getting the basics right would make a nice change.
Yes and if you had read my post you would have known that I didn't want Harry after the play off final.
Stroller, this is not anti-Holloway it's about wanting QPR to do well and my view is that under Holloway we will not be very good. Another thing that people forget is that he had a team of battlers, players that were in some cases QPR fans. We don't have that now.
Forget all the sentimental cr2p that goes with Holloway and discuss his amazing job at Leicester (relegated). Palace got rid after a year. Millwall got rid after he ruined them. The bloke aint very good but if you like the soundbites then good luck.
I suppose the difference between me and you, Ellers, is that I'm prepared to watch a few games under the re-incarnated Holloway before deciding the football is crap and that the next poor sap should be lined up for ritual abuse. I wouldn't have chosen Holloway to replace JFH, but, now that it's done, why not just wait and see how it goes?