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- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
As far as I understand, it was Manuel Pellegrini who approached us and not the other way round. Maybe it took us aback that he was interested?
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Or maybe he made his pitch, and it was impressive, allaying our concerns and convincing the board that he "got us."

Could also be we missed out on some of our targets. Or that some of them came off as less impressive when we talked to them or their agents.
 
fatletiss said:
That's a nice way to have a discussion. If you feel like that, just don't carry on posting on the topic. Posting that just shows a lack of class and reduces credibility.

Shame. People disagree all the time. It's a bit spoiled and petulant to just launch your toys.
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You make it sound like a popularity contest.
 
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One major thing with Pellegrini and the City thing - we don't have any superstar type egos in the team like Yaya, or people who believe themselves above the manager/paid five times more than the manager in that sense. Makes the actual job of 'management' a heck of a lot easier.

Re Puel - he's a title winner and has worked miracles at Nice. Discounting him because you can't see past a win % is bonkers. In my opinion.
 
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KingslandSaint said:
Not saying you're wrong or stopping you having an opinion, just that it isn't as cut and dry as just looking at statistics. :emoticon-0148-yes:
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Feel obligated to defend statistics once again here.

The problem is that this a superficial and poor analysis. Not that it uses statistics.

Certainly, if we looked at the record of teams prior to Puel's appointment and the budget he was given, we might have a better picture. And those are statistics. We could also look at possession, defense, attack stats to get an idea of how he likes to set up. We could look at the age of the teams he has coached.

Without saying statistics are the be all, end all they are certainly quite useful and I am sure the team will have done those things and much more. I mean we didn't spend all that money to build a bespoke database and computer system for nothing. I have no doubt the black box is collecting data and crunching numbers all the time.
 
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fatletiss said:
Not at all, but I do tend to mentally note the people that are prepared to have a civil discussion. Those that don't, I tend to think aren't worth debating with. We don't have to agree.
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Fair enough, I sometimes think people ( myself included) can miss interpret certain posts as aggressive or sarcastic at times which doesn't help if you're trying to get a point across.

But I apologise and we shall crack on.
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
One major thing with Pellegrini and the City thing - we don't have any superstar type egos in the team like Yaya, or people who believe themselves above the manager/paid five times more than the manager in that sense. Makes the actual job of 'management' a heck of a lot easier.

Re Puel - he's a title winner and has worked miracles at Nice. Discounting him because you can't see past a win % is bonkers. In my opinion.
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Saying that, on the face of it, neither of these two would have been my first choice (amongst the names that have been floated around). But that's on the face of it. The reality is, comparatively I haven't got a sodding clue, and am completely predisposed to trusting those whose job it is to know the intricate details of such things. And those people have done a pretty good job of that to date.
 
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I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Feel obligated to defend statistics once again here.

The problem is that this a superficial and poor analysis. Not that it uses statistics.

Certainly, if we looked at the record of teams prior to Puel's appointment and the budget he was given, we might have a better picture. And those are statistics. We could also look at possession, defense, attack stats to get an idea of how he likes to set up. We could look at the age of the teams he has coached.

Without saying statistics are the be all, end all they are certainly quite useful and I am sure the team will have done those things and much more. I mean we didn't spend all that money to build a bespoke database and computer system for nothing. I have no doubt the black box is collecting data and crunching numbers all the time.
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The context of his comment was that sotonsaint said several times that the win % was poor, so we shouldn't consider him. It's not actually a debate on stats.

Just to keep this back on track and the new manager.
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
Saying that, on the face of it, neither of these two would have been my first choice (amongst the names that have been floated around). But that's on the face of it. The reality is, comparatively I haven't got a sodding clue, and am completely predisposed to trusting those whose job it is to know the intricate details of such things. And those people have done a pretty good job of that to date.
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If they can refine their recruitment methods so they assess personality, commitment and loyalty more thoroughly than just by asking "Are you a lying **** who'll **** off in two years? No? Excellent." then they'll be close to perfect.
 
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Puck said:
If they can refine their recruitment methods so they assess personality, commitment and loyalty more thoroughly than just by asking "Are you a lying **** who'll **** off in two years? No? Excellent." then they'll be close to perfect.
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And we then select the one who answers "yes" because we can trust him... :emoticon-0136-giggl
 
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This time around, the contract negotiations will start something like this:

"Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under. You will work in the Southampton Way until WE tell you it's time to go. Three, two, one... You're back in the room."
 
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Didn't like him when he first went to man city but didn't mind him by the time he left, they treated him like **** to. How anyone can go to work knowing you've basically been told to **** off at the end of the season is beyond me, so fair play to him for that.

6/4 now with most bookies.
 
sotonsaint said:
Didn't like him when he first went to man city but didn't mind him by the time he left, they treated him like **** to. How anyone can go to work knowing you've basically been told to **** off at the end of the season is beyond me, so fair play to him for that.

6/4 now with most bookies.
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First time I was made redundant I was given 6 months notice (as were all the staff.) We worked just as normal. there was a reasonably good bonus for staying the six months on top of the redundancy pay though
 
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