1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

New Manager Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Shepherd's Clearing, Jun 7, 2016.

  1. SouthamptonFCroatia

    SouthamptonFCroatia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2013
    Messages:
    3,607
    Likes Received:
    1,302
    for someone like me who has followed Olympique Lyonnais for ages, Claude Puel would represent a pretty uninspiring choice.
     
    #1041
  2. AberdeenSaint

    AberdeenSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    3,978
    Likes Received:
    3,616
    If Fergie reckoned that Moyes was good enough to be his successor at ManU, then that endorsement is good enough for me. He hasn`t suddenly become a bad manager, and his bad experiences will have made him wiser. Maybe.
     
    #1042
  3. SouthamptonFCroatia

    SouthamptonFCroatia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2013
    Messages:
    3,607
    Likes Received:
    1,302
    Moyes lacked the balls to do the things the way he thought was right, he was indecisive and accepted too many compromises. Everything most people never expected from him, he basically cracked under pressure.
     
    #1043
  4. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    22,887
    Likes Received:
    11,530
    I think there are better options out there, but if the board were to unveil Moyes are our next manager, I would be 100% behind it.
     
    #1044
    fatletiss likes this.
  5. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,204
    Likes Received:
    2,068
    As would I but please let it not happen.
     
    #1045
  6. hotbovril

    hotbovril Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,763
    Likes Received:
    1,624
    I can understand the first element here but the second seems quite odd. If he has worked under a DoF responsible for all recruitment then this would appear to be him saying that he doesn't want any involvement, committee or otherwise. Conversely, it suggests that he has been used to making all the calls himself which I very much doubt on the continent. I'd suggest that point two is quite wide of the mark as anyone with a modicum of football knowledge - and we must assume that he has way more than that - knows that our transfer activity has been ridiculously successful over the last six or seven years. Maybe he was informed of the likely departures this summer and didn't fancy replacing those on their way out of the door.
     
    #1046
    KillerCephalopod likes this.

  7. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    9,522
    Likes Received:
    5,485
    Please not moyes. I respected him for his work at Everton but his curmudgeonly uncharismatic demeanour grates. He is a safe bet but not right for saints. He would suit palace west brom Watford ie a club looking to establish is top half and get stability.

    We either need a young ish, charismatic manager with potential ie Rudi or an experienced name who has achieved at the top, ie Pelegrini.

    I would be happy with either but am leaning towards Pelegrini. Yes he's old but is more than capable of managing a few more years. He would comand respect, would attract players and is the best bet for Europe.
     
    #1047
  8. Plastique Bertrand

    Plastique Bertrand Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    203
    Former Lyon managers and the UK generally dont mix well Santini, Le Geun, Tigana, Perrin, Garde. There was Houiller, but generally most managers careers falter afterward leaving.


    I think the board are looking at what Puel's done at Nice though, surely?
     
    #1048
    OddRiverOakWizards likes this.
  9. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2014
    Messages:
    1,534
    Likes Received:
    1,236
    We're supporters/fans/followers call it what you like of Southampton FC, so if the club choose David Moyes or someone lesser known they would have really good reason. Part of which, I am guessing, would be a long detailed discussion on their vision, the club's vision and how they could dovetail the two. I would imagine it would be nothing like any interview process most of us have been on except for the high-fliers that post [I'm certainly not one of those].

    Despite what some of our more 'strange' support think I am sure the club don't have an hour's interview and then sit around a table and go 'He was alright, let's employ him' - job done. It will be a long and complex process.

    So I would like to think that despite any of our [non-professional football experience] misgivings the new appointment will be, as best as the club can tell, the right fit [that is available and says yes]. Further I like to think that we would all behind the club and the new appointment. Otherwise what's the point?

    Everyone needs a chance to show their mettle and next season is going to be a tough season for the new Southampton manager that person doesn't need it to be tougher but some of us moaning about their appointment.

    We have called Everton fans delusion but reading a some of the comments over the Internet of our fans about who is and isn't good enough for Saints we are definitely in a black kettle situation in my opinion.

    Hmmm that was very lecture-like wasn't it? I'll stop now.
     
    #1049
  10. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    9,522
    Likes Received:
    5,485
    pelegdini also won't use us as a stepping stone or to cut his teeth in the PL.
     
    #1050
    manxsaint likes this.
  11. JustAnotherSaintSupporter

    JustAnotherSaintSupporter Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Messages:
    395
    Likes Received:
    48
    Pelegrini had a pretty raw deal at MC in his final year and if he is appointed I can see him relishing the opportunity to prove that they were wrong to get rid of him.
    Three years in which to do that would probably suit us and him and we could then move on and he could bow out gracefully.
    With all his experience and our ambition he could be the perfect fit
     
    #1051
  12. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,204
    Likes Received:
    2,068
    The way you put that about Houllier makes it sound like he isn't on the list of failures. He was the man who started Liverpool's demise. He was the one that tried to catch up with United's free flowing attack attack 90s wonders by turning Liverpool from a beautiful to watch all out attack footballing side into a defensive sit and counter outfit. And as soon as Liverpool went that way they never got back to their best with Benitez just being a more successful version of the boring sit and counter.

    So Houllier was a failure in England as well (I won't count Villa.)
     
    #1052
  13. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2011
    Messages:
    11,885
    Likes Received:
    8,286
    Pellegrini for me. With age comes great wisdom.
     
    #1053
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2016
  14. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,204
    Likes Received:
    2,068
    Manuel Pellegrini was only 1 minute into trying to convince Les Reed that he was the man. He needn't have taken a whole minute because Les Reed had decided already. As soon as Pellegrini uttered the words "cheap as chips"

    Manuel Pellegrini pictured yesterday:
    please log in to view this image
     
    #1054
  15. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2011
    Messages:
    31,308
    Likes Received:
    36,196
    I imagine that he has his chips with chilli sauce....
     
    #1055
    latviandream and fatletiss like this.
  16. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    Well of course not, he's just left the stepping stone and we would be the dream he's aspired to...
     
    #1056
  17. saintlyhero

    saintlyhero Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2011
    Messages:
    7,933
    Likes Received:
    3,982
    Not sure why Moyes keeps getting mentioned when he has been dismissed as a target by the papers, ITKs and Bookies odds.

    May as well talk about why we don't want Paul Cook(bonus points if you know who he is)
     
    #1057
  18. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    ... because he's tainted and smells blue :)
     
    #1058
  19. NISaint

    NISaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2011
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    564
    The good thing about Pellegrini is that after a few seasons in charge we won't have to see his mug week in week out managing another team because he will likely retire.
     
    #1059
  20. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2011
    Messages:
    11,542
    Likes Received:
    2,027
    Because you don't want to play like Barcelona?
     
    #1060
    saintlyhero likes this.

Share This Page