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These are my rose tinted shades, I need them to be positive

Are you sure you're not wearing these.

The Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses have been designed to help people develop a relaxed attitude to danger. They follow the principle "what you don't know can't hurt you" and turn completely dark and opaque at the first sign of danger. This prevents you from seeing anything that might alarm you. This does, however, mean that you see absolutely nothing, including where you're going.
 
Are you sure you're not wearing these.

The Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses have been designed to help people develop a relaxed attitude to danger. They follow the principle "what you don't know can't hurt you" and turn completely dark and opaque at the first sign of danger. This prevents you from seeing anything that might alarm you. This does, however, mean that you see absolutely nothing, including where you're going.
who said that...
 
To be fair he didn’t want to come back, he was happy in Ireland. We ended his loan to cover injuries and now barely play him.

I can see how that could lead to the alleged attitude / effort issues.

It's cyclical though. With his ability he could be starting at this level if he applied himself, and he wouldn't have to pine for the comfort of regular football in a barely professional league.
 
It's cyclical though. With his ability he could be starting at this level if he applied himself, and he wouldn't have to pine for the comfort of regular football in a barely professional league.

Big fish little pond syndrome maybe....
 
It's cyclical though. With his ability he could be starting at this level if he applied himself, and he wouldn't have to pine for the comfort of regular football in a barely professional league.

Is he not applying himself? That seems absurd that he would get a chance at his hometown club in the championship and not give it his all. There are areas of his game that are lacking quite badly, knowing where to be, what to do, and he plays a lot like a typical fancy foreign winger who’s used to playing against defenders that are only interested in the ball rather than 6’5 built like a brick ****house centre halves that are more interested in booting him into row Z.
 
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Is he not applying himself? That seems absurd that he would get a chance at his hometown club in the championship and not give it his all. There are areas of his game that are lacking quite badly, knowing where to be, what to do, and he plays a lot like a typical fancy foreign winger who’s used to playing against defenders that are only interested in the ball rather than 6’5 built like a brick ****house centre halves that are more interested in booting him into row Z.

I'm just talking about the image that's forming from what both Walter and Rosenior said about him. I don't know anything specific. Rosenior seemed to have an issue with his pressing and tracking back, while Walter made out like he just didn't care enough. I didn't particularly respect Walter but I don't think his opinions are worthless; it's never good if a manager thinks a player isn't as bothered as he should be.
 
I'm just talking about the image that's forming from what both Walter and Rosenior said about him. I don't know anything specific. Rosenior seemed to have an issue with his pressing and tracking back, while Walter made out like he just didn't care enough. I didn't particularly respect Walter but I don't think his opinions are worthless; it's never good if a manager thinks a player isn't as bothered as he should be.

He turned up to training in something fashionable one time so Walter thought he was unprofessional.
 
From the Yorkshire post, interesting read, basically says if it all goes tits up we’ll be sticking with sellers….

Acun Ilicali says he would not have appointed Ruben Selles as Hull City's new coach if he was scared of relegation, but he was more concerned with finding someone who could develop the team for the long term.
Selles takes charge of the Tigers for the first time at home to Watford tonight with his side bottom of the Championship after Saturday's defeat to Blackburn Rovers.
“If I was afraid of being relegated, if I had any fear, I would never go with a young manager who has never been in the Championship,” said Turkish owner/chairman Ilicali as he presented the 41-year-old to the media.
For us the future is important. I would never have a coach for a certain time to save the club.
Instead of that I would go for a manager I see potential in and I feel it in my heart and go for the future.
“We had some options which could have been very advantageous for saving us with fully experienced Championship coaches that were available and could save us on paper so easily but I didn't care about that.”
For his part, the former Southampton caretaker and Reading manager has promised fans will see a proper “Ruben Selles team” on Wednesday despite having just two training sessions to prepare.
I hope you will see a team that you can identify as a Ruben Selles team and from the very beginning has the characteristics,” said the Spaniard, who will test Alfie Jones’ fitness on matchday. “It's never 100 per cent in football but I think we can be a good version of what we want to be in the future.
We know only one way to win football matches (albeit) with adaptions. We are not talking about being protective and going for a 0-0 and a set play.
“We can adjust things but we are not going to compromise anything.”
And he believes he has a squad that can do what he wants.
“I think the squad is more than capable to do the things we demand to get the points to make the first steps out of the relegation zone,” he said.
“I think it's a powerful squad and we need to make it work.
We'll work on the process and our behaviours. When we train harder than we play, it means we're in a good place and prepared for the situations that are going to come into the game.
“(In time) our memory as a team will give us the answer so we can solve questions by just looking each other in the eye.
It's going to take a bit of time but the answer from the players has already been fantastic.
“We have a clear idea of how to play the game, we want to be aggressive, vertical, front-footed, very dynamic attacking and aggressive in the counter-press. That's the idea.
Then we need to develop in different scenarios with the players we have. But the team will have an identity you can recognise.”
Jared Dublin, promoted from head of recruitment to sporting director and was a key part of the selection process, was also thinking long-term in his appraisal of a man he worked with at Reading.
“We see Ruben as a very big part of the next step and want to make sure we're looking after the best interest of the club and not just the short-term, the medium and long-term,” he said.
 
From the Yorkshire post, interesting read, basically says if it all goes tits up we’ll be sticking with sellers….

Acun Ilicali says he would not have appointed Ruben Selles as Hull City's new coach if he was scared of relegation, but he was more concerned with finding someone who could develop the team for the long term.
Selles takes charge of the Tigers for the first time at home to Watford tonight with his side bottom of the Championship after Saturday's defeat to Blackburn Rovers.
“If I was afraid of being relegated, if I had any fear, I would never go with a young manager who has never been in the Championship,” said Turkish owner/chairman Ilicali as he presented the 41-year-old to the media.
For us the future is important. I would never have a coach for a certain time to save the club.
Instead of that I would go for a manager I see potential in and I feel it in my heart and go for the future.
“We had some options which could have been very advantageous for saving us with fully experienced Championship coaches that were available and could save us on paper so easily but I didn't care about that.”
For his part, the former Southampton caretaker and Reading manager has promised fans will see a proper “Ruben Selles team” on Wednesday despite having just two training sessions to prepare.
I hope you will see a team that you can identify as a Ruben Selles team and from the very beginning has the characteristics,” said the Spaniard, who will test Alfie Jones’ fitness on matchday. “It's never 100 per cent in football but I think we can be a good version of what we want to be in the future.
We know only one way to win football matches (albeit) with adaptions. We are not talking about being protective and going for a 0-0 and a set play.
“We can adjust things but we are not going to compromise anything.”
And he believes he has a squad that can do what he wants.
“I think the squad is more than capable to do the things we demand to get the points to make the first steps out of the relegation zone,” he said.
“I think it's a powerful squad and we need to make it work.
We'll work on the process and our behaviours. When we train harder than we play, it means we're in a good place and prepared for the situations that are going to come into the game.
“(In time) our memory as a team will give us the answer so we can solve questions by just looking each other in the eye.
It's going to take a bit of time but the answer from the players has already been fantastic.
“We have a clear idea of how to play the game, we want to be aggressive, vertical, front-footed, very dynamic attacking and aggressive in the counter-press. That's the idea.
Then we need to develop in different scenarios with the players we have. But the team will have an identity you can recognise.”
Jared Dublin, promoted from head of recruitment to sporting director and was a key part of the selection process, was also thinking long-term in his appraisal of a man he worked with at Reading.
“We see Ruben as a very big part of the next step and want to make sure we're looking after the best interest of the club and not just the short-term, the medium and long-term,” he said.
We’re going down
 
We’re going down

I'm sceptical as of late with Acun's words and his actual actions. However, if this is true then I hope he sticks by it. We've dug ourselves a mighty hole this year. Thankfully alongside ourselves the bottom 8 or so teams do seem genuinely poor and you could make the argument for 5 of them and ourselves going down.

If we do go down, and Selles hasn't crapped the bed in doing so, he needs to be given the chance to get us back up. This isn't like Grant McCann in that he's the one that brought us down. Chances are he could do everything right and we still go down given the terrible first half of the season we've had. Let Selles breath and get this ship pointing in the right direction regardless of the outcome
 
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From the Yorkshire post, interesting read, basically says if it all goes tits up we’ll be sticking with sellers….

Acun Ilicali says he would not have appointed Ruben Selles as Hull City's new coach if he was scared of relegation, but he was more concerned with finding someone who could develop the team for the long term.
Selles takes charge of the Tigers for the first time at home to Watford tonight with his side bottom of the Championship after Saturday's defeat to Blackburn Rovers.
“If I was afraid of being relegated, if I had any fear, I would never go with a young manager who has never been in the Championship,” said Turkish owner/chairman Ilicali as he presented the 41-year-old to the media.
For us the future is important. I would never have a coach for a certain time to save the club.
Instead of that I would go for a manager I see potential in and I feel it in my heart and go for the future.
“We had some options which could have been very advantageous for saving us with fully experienced Championship coaches that were available and could save us on paper so easily but I didn't care about that.”
For his part, the former Southampton caretaker and Reading manager has promised fans will see a proper “Ruben Selles team” on Wednesday despite having just two training sessions to prepare.
I hope you will see a team that you can identify as a Ruben Selles team and from the very beginning has the characteristics,” said the Spaniard, who will test Alfie Jones’ fitness on matchday. “It's never 100 per cent in football but I think we can be a good version of what we want to be in the future.
We know only one way to win football matches (albeit) with adaptions. We are not talking about being protective and going for a 0-0 and a set play.
“We can adjust things but we are not going to compromise anything.”
And he believes he has a squad that can do what he wants.
“I think the squad is more than capable to do the things we demand to get the points to make the first steps out of the relegation zone,” he said.
“I think it's a powerful squad and we need to make it work.
We'll work on the process and our behaviours. When we train harder than we play, it means we're in a good place and prepared for the situations that are going to come into the game.
“(In time) our memory as a team will give us the answer so we can solve questions by just looking each other in the eye.
It's going to take a bit of time but the answer from the players has already been fantastic.
“We have a clear idea of how to play the game, we want to be aggressive, vertical, front-footed, very dynamic attacking and aggressive in the counter-press. That's the idea.
Then we need to develop in different scenarios with the players we have. But the team will have an identity you can recognise.”
Jared Dublin, promoted from head of recruitment to sporting director and was a key part of the selection process, was also thinking long-term in his appraisal of a man he worked with at Reading.
“We see Ruben as a very big part of the next step and want to make sure we're looking after the best interest of the club and not just the short-term, the medium and long-term,” he said.
I think you're opening gambit is badly mis-representing what Acun & Dublin said yesterday.
The article is a direct excerpt from yesterday's presser.
Where is Acun saying we'll stick with Selles even if it goes tits up?
They were simply saying that they want a manager not just for survival this season, but that can take us forward longer term.
And that's what's actually printed near the end of the article even.
 
Is he not applying himself? That seems absurd that he would get a chance at his hometown club in the championship and not give it his all. There are areas of his game that are lacking quite badly, knowing where to be, what to do, and he plays a lot like a typical fancy foreign winger who’s used to playing against defenders that are only interested in the ball rather than 6’5 built like a brick ****house centre halves that are more interested in booting him into row Z.
His hometown is York.
 
Listened to the whole presser on the 1904 podcast, it was a good listen. Acun definitely doesn't say anything about sticking with Selles if we go down.
 
I’m trying to be positive but I have real doubts about him
“In his three months in charge, he oversaw the relegation of Southampton to the EFL Championship, having won just two games in 17 matches.”

I’ve no idea of the players he had at reading and he appears to have done ok
But more I think of it more I think Alex Neil would have suited us in this situation
 
I’m trying to be positive but I have real doubts about him
“In his three months in charge, he oversaw the relegation of Southampton to the EFL Championship, having won just two games in 17 matches.”

I’ve no idea of the players he had at reading and he appears to have done ok
But more I think of it more I think Alex Neil would have suited us in this situation
I think Southampton were going down regardless of selles or whoever was in charge.
I get what your saying about Neil, I posted last week Selles was the unknown and exciting candidate but in our current situation maybe the safe option (Neil) have been a better choice. But hey ho
 
I’m trying to be positive but I have real doubts about him
“In his three months in charge, he oversaw the relegation of Southampton to the EFL Championship, having won just two games in 17 matches.”

I’ve no idea of the players he had at reading and he appears to have done ok
But more I think of it more I think Alex Neil would have suited us in this situation

As the days went on, to my mind it was either Neil or Selles.

I'd have been happy enough with Neil. Good, solid choice. But ... when you thought about it, you realise he wasn't really an Acun type appointment.

With Selles, I wouldn't have any concern whatsoever with his record at Southampton. Great experience that will have helped develop him. He joined in June 22 as assistant to Hassenhutl who was then sacked 4 months later in November and replaced with Jones ... who was sacked 3 months later in February 23! They were in a mess and as good as down. He probably did well to get the 2 wins and 4 draws that they did. They actually got 10 of their 25 points total that season under him! Imagine taking on your first manager role with Southampton in February this season with 2 managers already sacked (they haven't this season, but just to help make the point).

Only time will tell, but to me he now has experience under his belt and the anticipation of higher future potential. He's definitely served a deep, varied apprenticeship (roles, countries and time), with now 3 seasons in English football , 2 as a manager. Of course it could go wrong, but to me it feels right this time.

I wouldn't have been too disappointed with Neil though. He would have been a decent appointment and maybe we (some) underestimate his ceiling too. But I'm more excited by the Selles appointment.