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Ehab's Member said:
Maybe you should actually read what I've written.
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I did?

You said stripes played into our nickname, which I agree with.

Our new shirt has tiger stripes on it - which also plays into our nickname.

I wasn’t having a go - I was just pointing out that multiple styles can both freshen the kit and point out our identity?
 
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Ehab's Member said:
No serious club keeps constantly swapping stripes to plain and back again. FACT.
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These seem to have a play with kit designs (**** around with it) and seem to do alright
Ehab's Member said:
We've had this interminable discussion for years. If you're serious about your identity you don't **** about with it, especially if you intend to be a global brand. Liverpool and Man Utd don't experiment with stripes, Newcastle and Sunderland would never abandon their iconic stripes, Chelsea are always in plain blue. Even QPR don't turn up in August in anything but hoops. You know who do constantly experiment? Lower league clubs who don't know what they're about and so fanny around with shirts trying to look interesting.

I've mentioned before that we're known in Brazil partly because of Giovanni but also because of that iconic 2008-9 PL kit that perfectly encapsulated the underdog Tiger and set us up as a global brand - No one in world football (to my knowledge) had that same black and amber striped kit. It was instantly recognised, marketable, and iconic, yet we chose to **** about with it. Again.
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Drew said:
I did?

You said stripes played into our nickname, which I agree with.

Our new shirt has tiger stripes on it - which also plays into our nickname.

I wasn’t having a go - I was just pointing out that multiple styles can both freshen the kit and point out our identity?
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I'll be honest, I had no idea this would be as difficult a concept to grasp as it seems to be. For the hard of thinking, I'll try to be simple.

1. Hull City started out in vertical amber and black stripes back in 1904. Not ****ing tiger print.
2. Our nickname almost certainly was coined because of that kit.
3. Amber and black stripes are (probably) unique in world professional football.
4. For over 100 years until 2008 we were regarded as lower league also-rans, unknown to foreigners.
5. Our first season in the PL brought us many foreign fans, partly because of the iconic kit and nickname, giving us a fantastic opportunity to market the club worldwide or at least maintain a profile.
6. We decided not to lean into that hard-earned recognition and go back to what we've always done, keep swapping shirts from stripes to plain to ****ing tiger print, thereby throwing away any chance of maintaining a profile.
7. Every major successful club in the UK values their brand and they see their shirt design as an essential part of that, which is why they don't **** with it. Most foreign clubs view it the same way (apart from two seasons that Barca chart shows year upon year of blue and red vertical stripes, and I reckon Real Madrid have been fairly happy with plain white - Don Revie saw the power of it, which is why he adopted it for Leeds).
8. Lower league clubs often change their shirt designs partly because they lack that identity and are not tied to a tradition or success.
 
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Ehab's Member said:
I'll be honest, I had no idea this would be as difficult a concept to grasp as it seems to be. For the hard of thinking, I'll try to be simple.

1. Hull City started out in vertical amber and black stripes back in 1904. Not ****ing tiger print.
2. Our nickname almost certainly was coined because of that kit.
3. Amber and black stripes are (probably) unique in world professional football.
4. For over 100 years until 2008 we were regarded as lower league also-rans, unknown to foreigners.
5. Our first season in the PL brought us many foreign fans, partly because of the iconic kit and nickname, giving us a fantastic opportunity to market the club worldwide or at least maintain a profile.
6. We decided not to lean into that hard-earned recognition and go back to what we've always done, keep swapping shirts from stripes to plain to ****ing tiger print, thereby throwing away any chance of maintaining a profile.
7. Every major successful club in the UK values their brand and they see their shirt design as an essential part of that, which is why they don't **** with it. Most foreign clubs view it the same way (apart from two seasons that Barca chart shows year upon year of blue and red vertical stripes, and I reckon Real Madrid have been fairly happy with plain white - Don Revie saw the power of it, which is why he adopted it for Leeds).
8. Lower league clubs often change their shirt designs partly because they lack that identity and are not tied to a tradition or success.
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Sorry? There is no need to describe me as hard of thinking - I was making the point that our kit has stripes more akin to tiger stripes (as you mention in your post) than the actual kit we had in the PL.

I think we might as well leave it there as there’s no point in getting so personal about a relatively minor point I was making.
 
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That's a point, something that's always confused me - why aren't Leeds mocked more for their chopping and changing of visual identity? Copying Real Madrid's white is sad. They should be embarrassed of that surely. And then they sometimes keep their more traditional blue and yellow colours in their away kit but often don't. And then sometimes they're peacocks but not very much. For a club with such an ego, they don't seem very confident about their actual identity.
 
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PLT said:
That's a point, something that's always confused me - why aren't Leeds mocked more for their chopping and changing of visual identity? Copying Real Madrid's white is sad. They should be embarrassed of that surely. And then they sometimes keep their more traditional blue and yellow colours in their away kit but often don't. And then sometimes they're peacocks but not very much. For a club with such an ego, they don't seem very confident about their actual identity.
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I'm not overly sure why any dyed in the wool City fan would be concerning themselves about Leeds Utd's colours...

It's a bit bizarre considering our current situation:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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PLT said:
That's a point, something that's always confused me - why aren't Leeds mocked more for their chopping and changing of visual identity? Copying Real Madrid's white is sad. They should be embarrassed of that surely. And then they sometimes keep their more traditional blue and yellow colours in their away kit but often don't. And then sometimes they're peacocks but not very much. For a club with such an ego, they don't seem very confident about their actual identity.
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Apparently the copying Madrid is a myth
And tbh so what
But quite an interesting read
https://secretlibraryleeds.net/2025/04/17/leeds-united-and-the-myth-of-the-white-strip/
 
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Ehab's Member said:
I'll be honest, I had no idea this would be as difficult a concept to grasp as it seems to be. For the hard of thinking, I'll try to be simple.

1. Hull City started out in vertical amber and black stripes back in 1904. Not ****ing tiger print.
2. Our nickname almost certainly was coined because of that kit.
3. Amber and black stripes are (probably) unique in world professional football.
4. For over 100 years until 2008 we were regarded as lower league also-rans, unknown to foreigners.
5. Our first season in the PL brought us many foreign fans, partly because of the iconic kit and nickname, giving us a fantastic opportunity to market the club worldwide or at least maintain a profile.
6. We decided not to lean into that hard-earned recognition and go back to what we've always done, keep swapping shirts from stripes to plain to ****ing tiger print, thereby throwing away any chance of maintaining a profile.
7. Every major successful club in the UK values their brand and they see their shirt design as an essential part of that, which is why they don't **** with it. Most foreign clubs view it the same way (apart from two seasons that Barca chart shows year upon year of blue and red vertical stripes, and I reckon Real Madrid have been fairly happy with plain white - Don Revie saw the power of it, which is why he adopted it for Leeds).
8. Lower league clubs often change their shirt designs partly because they lack that identity and are not tied to a tradition or success.
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Get over it if this is such a big problem in your life you must have very little to worry about .
Identity generally comes with success and just because some like to switch between plain and stripes doesn't make them hard of thinking .
Our identity comes in the form of amber and black .
 
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Edelman said:
Get over it if this is such a big problem in your life you must have very little to worry about .
Identity generally comes with success and just because some like to switch between plain and stripes doesn't make them hard of thinking .
Our identity comes in the form of amber and black .
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It's a while since we've had any amber in our colours...That's been eroded through the years to Orange?
 
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