Mr. Nice I didn't put you on the ignore list because I don't like swearing. I put you there because you seem(ed) intent on stirring trouble an were involved in any argument on the site. Whether it was tongue in cheek or meant maybe I missed but you seem to have calmed down so you're off the list
Joe Steinberg will remain there because any argument on here he uses to have a go at people. I left last year because of something he got involved in and then I come back and within a few weeks he's at it again. He knows he does it and chooses to take the chance to attack and provoke which for me is a problem because I bite very easily. So he will remain on the list.
As for the people ganging up bit. I think the problem with many people these days is that they assume they are the only one making a compromise. I would bet loads of those who got fired up tonight have bitten their tongues madly for a long time through compromising, understanding that they have to accept the middle ground rather than insisting that their demands must be met. Then when others (not noticing or realising that many are already compromising) insisit that everyone is ganging up on them and not budging. We already budged. We put up with lots we would rather not be happening. We just don't moan about it. You accept that and then meet us in the middle ground that we are already in.
Joe - FYI when I was talking about chavs and immature people you hadn't sprung to my mind on this occasion yet you decided that you fit that descripition and started to argue with me about it. You must have paranoia about something there. Need to sort out that paranoia or you'll be starting to think everybody is talking about you if they describe anything.
Next - when we sign up to this forum we accept the t&C's and the rules of the forum. If it says no off topic that's what you sign so shouldn't really be at this stage should we?? If anything maybe the MODs should have stayed strictly to this through the close season. So far from being 'too stric' they have perhaps been to relaxed with the rules. If the T&Cs say that the Mod's are in charge then guess what?? You agreed to it.
Onto the subject. If possible a sub-forum within the Saints board would be the best way rather than off topic threads being within the Saints board. If it is within the Saints board then the MODs will be tasked with keeping the % in check and then they will get the same 'dictators' argument. Even then someone will say why has mine been deleted and not his etc when the tally is reached.
Other than that someone can create an off topic free forum and then post a sticky on this forum that leads people to it. Maybe this option suits others better.
On the banning thing the MODs have already explained that they can't ban anyone. They can ask for someone to be banned but the superMODs have to then se evidence. Therefore if it were simply a disagreement then it is actually the Super MOD at fault. Maybe not reading the evidence??? I doubt that however I'll leave that one there.
Now believe it or not I am Mod on a very busy (5000 active posters) worldwide forum. I have banning powers however I have only ever banned 3 people. 2 for spam and one for causing arguments over and over again. Take ito account that is a worldwide forum with many people using google translate etc to put it into English and also return other posts into their own language and it can often get a little tetchy. There are circa 50-100 reported posts a day for us Mods to weadle through often having to liaise betwen the poster and the reporter trying to find out what the former meant to say and the latter understood it to say.
Needless to say many are simple misunderstandings in the translation as many have seen on the translated messages in the Ramirez thread. There are only 5 of us doing this however we get it sorted and there aren't many rifts on there. People follow the rules that they signed up to.
So what about setting up a free forum, becoming the MODs on it and on here the admin letting you sticky the link so all can choose to go into the Saints off topic 'Lounge'.
Oh and yes I have signatures off too. Save's my scrolling wheel no end of mileage.
