I was implying that HMRC might not be too happy with his antics today. As I mentioned, I know **** all about that kind of thing but I wouldn't want to piss off HMRC if I were him?
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I was implying that HMRC might not be too happy with his antics today. As I mentioned, I know **** all about that kind of thing but I wouldn't want to piss off HMRC if I were him?
Must have been the main creditor route but I think he's ****ed it up unless ticketus get on side - though surely they would have loaned him £24.4m & got some assets down as collateral?? I bet he's linked to that ****ing company as well though
The only other thing is that his venture capatalist buddies realised there was nothing in it for them & stopped backing him early on & he underestimated the kind of wealth needed to run a club.
to be fair they did sign a few folk in the summer & probably relied on european money to make the shortfall.....then it went tits up & he kept trying to hide it & hide it hoping to get by until the taxcase went against them & then blame Murray for it all, get the debts wiped & emerge the hero.
the bbc asked. he said he used it to pay the remaining 1 million on jelavic and 1 million on beattie, the rest was used for running costs.
now rapid say they are still owed 1.2 million for jelavic. everything that comes out of whytes mouth is a lie.
Exactly
They are hardly known for having a sympathetic ear!!
He still hasn't paid the small tax case.....now over £4m owed & also the middle case of £9m.
No wonder they didn't want to do a deal with him on the big case!!
£22.2m running costs on top of the income they get??
Did they ask how he was going to cope with operating costs the 3 years he wouldn't see any money from season ticket sales?
Must have been the main creditor route but I think he's ****ed it up unless ticketus get on side - though surely they would have loaned him £24.4m & got some assets down as collateral?? I bet he's linked to that ****ing company as well though
The only other thing is that his venture capatalist buddies realised there was nothing in it for them & stopped backing him early on & he underestimated the kind of wealth needed to run a club.
to be fair they did sign a few folk in the summer & probably relied on european money to make the shortfall.....then it went tits up & he kept trying to hide it & hide it hoping to get by until the taxcase went against them & then blame Murray for it all, get the debts wiped & emerge the hero.
This - i think maybe he was hoping the tax case would have been determined by now - he held of paying people deliberately so that they lose the tax case - go under - Murray takes the blame.
Had the tax case gone ahead in October/November as planned then none of the ****e that has come out these past 2/3 weeks might have not been noticed.
If he'd said we owe the taxman too much so must liquidate everyone would have blamed Murray - but now its clear he's been keeping as much cash available as possible and paying **** all in the hope he has first pick of any left now. Only he wont get away with it unnoticed
What i have noticed also is somethings not right with how he bought the club. I know its been questioned did he use the ticketus money to buy the club - he simply said he used money from his account to buy the club - but the ticketus deal was done BEFORE he bought the club - so technically he may not have lied - he did pay the £18m from his account - after "£25m had been deposited there from Ticetus. BUt how exactly did he get ticketus to physically put that money in his account BEFORE he bought the club? For this to happen Murrays got to have been in on it?
rogueleader
suave gringo
Maybe whyte had a reasonably feasible plan - based on what he thought was the situation - but hadnt been able to see through mintys smoke and mirrors - and has ended up with a whole pile of steaming **** that he never knew he was getting ?
It seems that only time will truly tell what has gone on....but to me whyte just looks like a bumbling, naive fall guy, so out of his depth he needs a minature sub to scratch his own arse.
It seems that only time will truly tell what has gone on....but to me whyte just looks like a bumbling, naive fall guy, so out of his depth he needs a minature sub to scratch his own arse.
I think yesterday was the first time I've heard Whyte speak, and I highly doubt he's from Motherwell.
He was saying HMRC like HM AAAAAH C
He was saying HMRC like HM AAAAAH C
This bloke has had more companies than you and I have had hot dinners. He knew exactly what he was taking on and he knows exactly what he's doing.
rogueleader
suave gringo
but he does seem to keep ****ing up , both currently and historically ....dont get me wrong, Im in no sense defending or supporting whyte, but the angle of murray desperately trying to get out before the whole sorry house of cards fell down around his ears - something his gigantic ego could never contemplate - and using his well practiced smoke,mirrors,moonbeams and succulent lamb to get himself out of the hole and set up some patsy deserves more scrutiny I think.
Absolutely agree. Murray has a lot to answer for as do RFC.
Taking on a shady character like Whtye was the final nail in the coffin. 8 years banned from being a director??? He was RFC'S only option. All three have been complicit in the destruction and ruination of the club.
I know it's all rumour, but players who's contracts run out in the summer are meant to be being released over the next week.
Anyone else thinking that the 5 year contracts signed by the 'big players' last year were a pre-meditated action, knowing that this (administration/players leaving) would be happening?
What do I know?
Anyone else thinking that the 5 year contracts signed by the 'big players' last year were a pre-meditated action, knowing that this (administration/players leaving) would be happening?
What do I know?
His plan was to come to a viable agreement with HMRC over the £49 million tax claim, failing that he would take Rangers into admin with himself as the preferred creditor. Given that, why pay the other bill of £9 million? As things stand, it stays in Rangers account and Whyte should get the bulk of it as the preferred creditor. It's slippery as ****, but the sensible thing to do from a purely economic viewpoint.
The big unknown is whether he's planning to walk away with that money himself, or reinvest it in the club once we get through the admin process.
rogueleader
suave gringo
According to Leggo's blog, he used all the money living at 1 Devonshire Gardens, up until last night
Sayonara.
According to Leggo's blog, he used all the money living at 1 Devonshire Gardens, up until last night
Sayonara.
1 million monkeys on 1 million typewriters would eventually reproduce the entire works of William Shakespeare.
One ***** monkey with a typewriter would reproduce leggos blog on a daily basis.
I said the same thing on Monday. I think Whyte had a plan but it crumbled before his very eyes and now he's in over his head. Some people still think he has some sort of cunning plan to shaft the taxman and escape his liabilities by offloading all Rangers assets into another company, that may have worked had Rangers not been the major insitution that it is, but wih the full glare of the public spotlight on RFC and Whyte, I doubt that he will be able to pull off any sleight of hand tricks that he's used in the past with companies no one has heard of.
Murray, RFC and eventually Whyte are why Rangers are knackered.
Whyte comes across as a buffoon and I believe he has even flown out of the country. A man seriously not to be trusted, just listen to what judges had to say about him.
If I was A Ger I'd be absolutely livid with all three of them.
We finally twigged in about 2000 that we were seriously outlivung our means (and with no return from big transfer fee, well paid players).
The board shafted us but although all the jokes about toasters etc were hilarious as we skipped down Skint Alley we knew it had to be done. Eventually after years of mismanagement our board have finally sussed that we could not outlive our means and we have been paying the price ever since.
The board ****ed us and the board have ****ed Rangers.
Still though, I think Rangers will be allowed to find a way out of this. That's not to say they should though.