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  1. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    I'm not sure he'd yet be ready to be a guaranteed starter in the Championship. He'd get eaten alive in the Premiership coming up against time served internationals, every week. I'm not trying to drag this down, btw. I'm very excited about this lad, and potentially he's showing that he could easily be a premiership standard midfielder, he has all the attributes. He's a little bit away from that yet, I'm afraid. We've took Sinclair on loan from Watford, this season. The early signs are showing he will be playing a big part for us, this season. That will benefit both ourselves and Watford, massively.
     
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  2. Brian Storm

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    The alternative is PL clubs not having youth teams which would be weird.

    Pickford is a shining example of the loan system working to develop young players. Henderson is the shining example of in house promotion. But both are shining examples of players with that special something which is why the loan system or any youth development system will always be limited to a players natural potential which is why so many failures. Fact is most youth players are genetically incapable of greatness and will never make top flight players no matter which way you go about developing them.

    Personally I think the loan system with youth players is imperative for both the late developer and early blossomed for PL Clubs. But it's not for every player. It's down to good coaches to recognise who is suited to what, but it's still against the odds to produce a star.
     
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    If a PL club think he's capable at this age to be PL player right now they'd be queuing up for him but they're not. At most they'll be eyeing him up for their own academy and nothing more and even then nobody has made a move this window.

    I think the Loan system is important. It's not nice that teams like Chelsea abuse it. But they're successfully with it. They produce a hell of a lot of professional footballers. Granted very few make the Chelsea first team but mostly Chelsea are producing continental style players, loaning them out to the continent and selling them on to the continent. What I don't like is them owning youngsters and loaning them on a continuous bases leaving it to the loan clubs to fully develop them. That happens a lot at Chelsea and it's wrong. It's just contract hoarding.
     
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    We are bigger than frigging Chelsea, and I'm a ****. Their fickle supporters won't turn up man, come on Mumba we will get back to the premier league mate just stick with us.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Aren't you done with football? Or did you change your mind?

    I suggest you look up the definition of fickle.

    Then look up what people living in glass houses shouldn't do.
     
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    Use Sub-standard putty???
     
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    Have a **** with the light on?
     
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    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Money money money, the loan system favours the big fish, I think its called farming, Chelsea are the biggest culprits, but all of the top clubs do it and they grow richer and richer because they hold all the cards in the loan system as it stands, our demise can be traced back to this short termism and although we appeared to do well from it, long term we suffered, and how.
     
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    We did suffer, but only because we were bad at it.

    It doesn't mean we shouldn't try again though. That's the way the world turns these days.

    Unfortunately.
     
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