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Seeing the effort Newcastle,Villa and Bournemouth are putting into their games this weekend I'm starting to turn against the Fukn lot of our prima donnas.

Edit.......after the ****e they served up yesterday.
 
55282 said:
Seeing the effort Newcastle,Villa and Bournemouth are putting into their games this weekend I'm starting to turn against the Fukn lot of our prima donnas.
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To be honest, that my real concern.... We were saying in the ground yesterday that we may not have the players in the squad currently that you need for a relegation battle. Where are our "dogs", our battlers?

Who would you want beside you in the trenches ..... Bartley, Taylor, Naughton, Ki, Gomis? Think not
 
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Typical scouse bastards,when you want a favour from them they ****e on you.


Now it's a real battle.Roll your sleves up get your heads up and get on with it Swans.
 
55282 said:
Typical scouse bastards,when you want a favour from them they ****e on you.


Now it's a real battle.Roll your sleves up get your heads up and get on with it Swans.
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We could be in the relegation places after next weekend's games. If we fall into the bottom 3, will we ever get out of there with the current Manager & squad?
 
bigkidderz said:
Wouldn't be against Moyes (however, most certainly not 100% for him either) - he knows the British game well, and despite what people are saying about his style of play, when he was at Everton we got played off the park by them on all 4 occasions - losing 1-0, 0-2, 0-3 and drawing 0-0 with possession and shot stats heavily in Everton's favour each time. Despite the fact that people seem to think that his style of play wasn't great, it was by no means awful á la Stoke under Pulis. He brought in and utilised some fantastic players like Cahill, Osman, Fellaini, Pienaar, Naismith, Baines...the list goes on, famously doing it with very little financial backing. He even gave Rooney his debut at 16 years old, showing that he knows how to utilise his better youth players (unlike us who farmed Gorre off to Den Haag and Barrow to Blackburn (had Dyer not left, he'd still be there)).

Alright, things didn't work out at United - but lets be honest, becoming the immediate successor to Sir Alex was a poisoned chalice for anyone. I think even Mourinho would have struggled to make it work out. And he's failed at Real Sociedad - but certainly not the first British manager to try and fail in another country. When you don't speak the language and have never worked in Spain, that was always going to be tough. However, the Premier League is his bread and butter - he knows the league inside out, what it takes to succeed, how to get the best of players, how to beat the top teams, how to be consistent at beating the lesser teams, and most importantly, he took a struggling team in Everton to become a consistent Top 6 team during his decade in charge.

Say what you want about Moyes, but I personally think that to just say "no, thanks", "please God no", [his style of play is] "dire" is the most short-sighted assessment of his credentials there can be. By all means have the opinion that you don't want him here, but a fair argument as to why you're against him would help me see why and perhaps dissuade me from being impartial on his name being mentioned.
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I wouldn't be against him coming here, but would prefer that he didn't, yes he would steady the ship and we would become the new Everton, who won nothing under him, and just made up the numbers mid table, his football is typically British, and not what we are about, and he would not in my view get us back to a continental possession based game which was based on 4-2-3-1, which is what I see as our strength, Manu played awful under him, and I think we would too, so I would say if you are feeling the way you are on Moyes coming here then I would say well lets go the whole hog, and get Sousa back, at least we would have a talented Continental Moyes, but that will never happen because of Huw Jenkins stubborn stance on Sousa...........<ok>



What will be will be, but if Moyes comes, then that will be the final nail in the coffin of our Swanselona legacy, and it will never return. Of course if the Board and Huw Jenkins want to get back to our best Swanselona game, then they will sound out Rodgers, who understands the dynamics of keeping the ball.
 
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Nosugarman1 said:
Surely the position we're in now and for the short term it's not the style but the points that count.
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For me , this is where I thought we would be when we first came up and had nothing really .
We should be thankful that were in our 5 the season and only facing a "Keep your head above water " scenario for the real first time ....and a League Cup in the cabinet to boot .
Well done by all our managers to get us to this point .
 
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Nosugarman1 said:
Surely the position we're in now and for the short term it's not the style but the points that count.
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The more I think about it, the more a Moyes might actually do us some good, obviously especially right now. Our attractive footballing reputation is surely gone and it's going to take a lot of work, and luck, to get back on track. The problem now is we will be considered as just another struggling mid to lower table side to potential players and managers alike - if we stay up that is. Finding "gems" will be harder as we've nothing to offer over the other teams now, even more so considering the extra revenue coming soon which makes things a more level playing field anyway. I hope I'm just being overly pessimistic!

This season held so much promise but our bubble seems to have been popped with a vengeance :emoticon-0106-cryin
 
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daimungeezer said:
The more I think about it, the more a Moyes might actually do us some good, obviously especially right now. Our attractive footballing reputation is surely gone and it's going to take a lot of work, and luck, to get back on track. The problem now is we will be considered as just another struggling mid to lower table side to potential players and managers alike - if we stay up that is. Finding "gems" will be harder as we've nothing to offer over the other teams now, even more so considering the extra revenue coming soon which makes things a more level playing field anyway. I hope I'm just being overly pessimistic!

This season held so much promise but our bubble seems to have been popped with a vengeance :emoticon-0106-cryin
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Not true! It took Martinez just weeks to start us on the road to keeping the ball, after Jacket, matter of fact at the time I couldn't believe how quickly the transformation was, so if we get in someone like Rodgers, who understands the same dynamics then it will not be long before we are back to our best.........<ok>
 
DragonPhilljack said:
Not true! It took Martinez just weeks to start us on the road to keeping the ball, after Jacket, matter of fact at the time I couldn't believe how quickly the transformation was, so if we get in someone like Rodgers, who understands the same dynamics then it will not be long before we are back to our best.........<ok>
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I take on board what you're saying Phil but the pressure cooker of the Prem is a somewhat trickier and more difficult situation to shine in IMO.
 
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I wouldn't be against him coming here, but would prefer that he didn't, yes he would steady the ship and we would become the new Everton, who won nothing under him, and just made up the numbers mid table, his football is typically British, and not what we are about, and he would not in my view get us back to a continental possession based game which was based on 4-2-3-1, which is what I see as our strength, Manu played awful under him, and I think we would too, so I would say if you are feeling the way you are on Moyes coming here then I would say well lets go the whole hog, and get Sousa back, at least we would have a talented Continental Moyes, but that will never happen because of Huw Jenkins stubborn stance on Sousa...........<ok>

What will be will be, but if Moyes comes, then that will be the final nail in the coffin of our Swanselona legacy, and it will never return. Of course if the Board and Huw Jenkins want to get back to our best Swanselona game, then they will sound out Rodgers, who understands the dynamics of keeping the ball.
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Agree with this ^^^^. Sousa is an excellent shout. We had an emasculated attack under him before but that was mainly down to having just poor old Gorka up front. Sousa has done well elsewhere and would jump at the chance, but I suspect Jinks isn't the type to forgive and forget.
 
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