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bigkidderz said:
Wouldn't be against Moyes (however, most certainly not 100% for him either) - he knows the British game well, and despite what people are saying about his style of play, when he was at Everton we got played off the park by them on all 4 occasions - losing 1-0, 0-2, 0-3 and drawing 0-0 with possession and shot stats heavily in Everton's favour each time. Despite the fact that people seem to think that his style of play wasn't great, it was by no means awful á la Stoke under Pulis. He brought in and utilised some fantastic players like Cahill, Osman, Fellaini, Pienaar, Naismith, Baines...the list goes on, famously doing it with very little financial backing. He even gave Rooney his debut at 16 years old, showing that he knows how to utilise his better youth players (unlike us who farmed Gorre off to Den Haag and Barrow to Blackburn (had Dyer not left, he'd still be there)).

Alright, things didn't work out at United - but lets be honest, becoming the immediate successor to Sir Alex was a poisoned chalice for anyone. I think even Mourinho would have struggled to make it work out. And he's failed at Real Sociedad - but certainly not the first British manager to try and fail in another country. When you don't speak the language and have never worked in Spain, that was always going to be tough. However, the Premier League is his bread and butter - he knows the league inside out, what it takes to succeed, how to get the best of players, how to beat the top teams, how to be consistent at beating the lesser teams, and most importantly, he took a struggling team in Everton to become a consistent Top 6 team during his decade in charge.

Say what you want about Moyes, but I personally think that to just say "no, thanks", "please God no", [his style of play is] "dire" is the most short-sighted assessment of his credentials there can be. By all means have the opinion that you don't want him here, but a fair argument as to why you're against him would help me see why and perhaps dissuade me from being impartial on his name being mentioned.
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Moyes comes for free, offer him a one year deal .
Moyes is a midtable manager and should never go higher for his own good.
Besides an early 17th place finish and an later 11th place finish , always finished 8th or higher in a decade at Everton and qualified half the time for Europe (I think )
Class guy who showed the kind of character he has when he sued Rooney , won and gave the money to some sort of Everton older player fund and wished Rooney well
We already have a great bunch of players assembled for him , minus a striker , he will make an actual team out of them .
Sell Ayew and ditch Gomis in the window and let him bring in a striker and collect our 100,000,000 for next season
Then he can build a Midtable dynasty with us starting next season like he did at Everton .
Knows his way around the buy and sell market
I can't imagine him refusing the job imo
 
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Looking at the team yesterday, they showed a lack of heart, fight, desire and leadership (excluding Routs, Leon and Gylfi). In short, they were gutless.
Moyes would be perfect as he would not stand for the attitude of the players and imo wouldn't be afraid to drop the likes of Taylor and Ayew and give someone like Tabanou and possibly Grimes a fair crack of the whip.
Personally, I'd drop Ash for a while as he seems more interested in fighting and chasing opponents off the pitch rather than on it.
I know it's not the 'Swansea Way' of playing, but I used to admire the way Moyes had Everton playing, all the while on a shoe string budget.
 
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ValleyGraduate12 said:
Looking at the team yesterday, they showed a lack of heart, fight, desire and leadership (excluding Routs, Leon and Gylfi). In short, they were gutless.
Moyes would be perfect as he would not stand for the attitude of the players and imo wouldn't be afraid to drop the likes of Taylor and Ayew and give someone like Tabanou and possibly Grimes a fair crack of the whip.
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Valley doesn't that make GM subs even more staggering, Routs and Leon the first 2 to come of yet they left the effortless money grabbing French duo on the field.
 
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Gomis does not give a fuk if Swansea City are in the Premiership next season,he knows he will be gone whatever.The git just wants his pay cheque each month.

Panther?..........Fukn Donkey!!!!
 
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LIBERTARIAN said:
What depresses/distresses me is the speed in which this group of players have disintegrated.
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Last season they were falling over for Monk, adapting and playing different styles etc and there seemed a genuine unity within the camp.
To go from the side that battered Chelsea and beat Utd in the space of 6-8 weeks is very alarming.
It looks as if there's a huge, huge split in the squad, I say this because if I was a player that played in Taylor, Gomis or Ayews position, I'd be royally peeved at a lack of opportunity.
Cork was immense for us last season, a genuine defensive midfielder, yet he can't get a kick now.
Time to get rid of the 'influencial' group imo and tbh, I'd start with Ash as he doesn't look a tiny bit interested.
 
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