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Norway-jack said:
If its a player thing then why did we sack Laudrup ?

because surely what you have said there could have been said of the West Ham game that resulted in us sacking a decent manager for a player who had the chairmans ear .

Monk is out of his depth but i dont specifically blame him,i blame the board for putting him in there. What people dont seem to realise is that Laudrup was evolving our systems of play to make us less predictable. If you dont modify in this league your done for .

Im not saying Laudrup always got it right but people are failing to see the real reasons as to why we were playing slightly different. One moron on here said it himself "he is taking us away from our style of football"

Not true,he was trying to modify it and make us less predictable!!

"our identity was being eroded" when i heard that pearler from our chairman i knew we were doomed. What Monk has done is return us to a system that was busted at prem league level after the first 5 months of Rodger reign !!

Now people are finally able to see why it is important to play narrow as well as wide! something Laudrup was trying to make us adapt to. Rodgers knew our system was fooked after 5 months ,it was one of the reasons he was so keen to leave, Laudrup came in and modified it, this season he tried to modify it further with mixed results, but maybe,just maybe the results would not have been so mixed if he was allowed to sign the players HE wanted and not what the club wanted.


We had the perfect chance to build something special here at Swansea but a combination of some senior players bending the chairmans ear and the board beleiving they're own hype and getting inflated ego's has ensured this mess is big enough to send us down to the championship without even a fight !

A fooking shambles from top to bottom .


Nobody is perfect, but it is totally unforgivable to let personal issues and gossip influence a multi million pound buisness to the point where its taken to collapse/relegation .

Laudrup took flak for wanting to progress the clubs style even the thickest of fans can see that if you dont change in this league your done for. Most clubs can afford to buy a game changing player but we cant do that, Laudrup was making these small adjustments so that the likes of Palace and WBA were tactically short against us.

These same teams get the measure of us after 45 mins , say what you like about Laudrup but he very rarely got out thought in a game 2nd half,that meant that the opposition were usually one step behind him, you are now seeing the difference with a dunce like Monk in control of the bench and tactics.

Playing "the swansea way" is a totally daft concept without the right tactical approach and ability to modify systems within a game, if i know this how the fook doesnt Garry Monk and the board ??

Muppets mun !
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Top post Norway. Spot on.
 
Stereo said:
The fact is that this season under Laudrup, we beat both Palace and West Brom away. At home under Monk we held on for a draw in one and lost the other.
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The fact is that this season under Laudrup we beat Valencia away, but lost at home.

Another fact is that under Laudrup we lost at Cardiff but, under Monk, we beat them at home.

The reality is that we were drifting under Laudrup - and Monk is not the answer.
 
Garry Monk doesn't deserve the bile being spat at him, the board sacked ML and put Garry in charge. All this grief is the boards doing.
 
Stereo said:
Garry Monk doesn't deserve the bile being spat at him, the board sacked ML and put Garry in charge. All this grief is the boards doing.
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Spot on. The man is doing his best for the club, as he always has done <ok>
 
Taffvalerowdy said:
The fact is that this season under Laudrup we beat Valencia away, but lost at home.

Another fact is that under Laudrup we lost at Cardiff but, under Monk, we beat them at home.

The reality is that we were drifting under Laudrup - and Monk is not the answer.
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Drifting is better than sinking.
 
Taffvalerowdy said:
The fact is that this season under Laudrup we beat Valencia away, but lost at home.

Another fact is that under Laudrup we lost at Cardiff but, under Monk, we beat them at home.

The reality is that we were drifting under Laudrup - and Monk is not the answer.
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We had a perfectly good goal disallowed against Valencia that would have given us a draw.

The club cat could have motivated us to beat Cardiff at home.

The reality is that Jenkins panicked and Monk is definitely not the answer.
 
Stereo said:
Garry Monk doesn't deserve the bile being spat at him, the board sacked ML and put Garry in charge. All this grief is the boards doing.
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Garry Monk, aided and abetted by Williams, had been angling for the job for some time and brought "this grief" on his own head. Unfortunately, he's brought it down on ours as well.
 
It seems that there is now a growing consensus on this forum that Garry Monk is not the answer.

Even those who praised Monk as the new 'Messiah' are seemingly coming to the same conclusions of those who thought it was wrong from the beginning.

Maybe he's not meant to be the answer anyway, just someone who could bring a halt to the run of results and performances that we had slumped into under Laudrup, and thus help us avoid relegation - with a more experienced person to come in at the end of the season ?

If we win our next 3 games - all this will go away. :grin:
 
Ironic that some believe the rumours about Monk et al complaining yet dismiss the rumours that portray Laudrup in a negative light at their first opportunity <laugh>
 
Stereo said:
It seems that there is now a growing consensus on this forum that Garry Monk is not the answer.

Even those who praised Monk as the new 'Messiah' are seemingly coming to the same conclusions of those who thought it was wrong from the beginning.

Maybe he's not meant to be the answer anyway, just someone who could bring a halt to the run of results and performances that we had slumped into under Laudrup, and thus help us avoid relegation - with a more experienced person to come in at the end of the season ?

If we win our next 3 games - all this will go away. :grin:
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I saw him as a temporary appointment until they brought a new guy in. Was also hoping that somebody would have been lined up after the Palace game to give him 2 weeks to settle with the squad. He'll, I'd have gone for Zola with Monk as his assistant to help Zola settle quickly.
For any board to sack a manager with no seemingly option about replacing him on a permanent basis is madness.
 
Monk admitted complaining about Sousa himself, in his book....maybe that and his comments re: Laudrup's press conference etc. leads some to believe those particular rumours.
 
Norway-jack said:
If its a player thing then why did we sack Laudrup ?

because surely what you have said there could have been said of the West Ham game that resulted in us sacking a decent manager for a player who had the chairmans ear .

Monk is out of his depth but i dont specifically blame him,i blame the board for putting him in there. What people dont seem to realise is that Laudrup was evolving our systems of play to make us less predictable. If you dont modify in this league your done for .

Im not saying Laudrup always got it right but people are failing to see the real reasons as to why we were playing slightly different. One moron on here said it himself "he is taking us away from our style of football"

Not true,he was trying to modify it and make us less predictable!!

"our identity was being eroded" when i heard that pearler from our chairman i knew we were doomed. What Monk has done is return us to a system that was busted at prem league level after the first 5 months of Rodger reign !!

Now people are finally able to see why it is important to play narrow as well as wide! something Laudrup was trying to make us adapt to. Rodgers knew our system was fooked after 5 months ,it was one of the reasons he was so keen to leave, Laudrup came in and modified it, this season he tried to modify it further with mixed results, but maybe,just maybe the results would not have been so mixed if he was allowed to sign the players HE wanted and not what the club wanted.


We had the perfect chance to build something special here at Swansea but a combination of some senior players bending the chairmans ear and the board beleiving they're own hype and getting inflated ego's has ensured this mess is big enough to send us down to the championship without even a fight !

A fooking shambles from top to bottom .


Nobody is perfect, but it is totally unforgivable to let personal issues and gossip influence a multi million pound buisness to the point where its taken to collapse/relegation .

Laudrup took flak for wanting to progress the clubs style even the thickest of fans can see that if you dont change in this league your done for. Most clubs can afford to buy a game changing player but we cant do that, Laudrup was making these small adjustments so that the likes of Palace and WBA were tactically short against us.

These same teams get the measure of us after 45 mins , say what you like about Laudrup but he very rarely got out thought in a game 2nd half,that meant that the opposition were usually one step behind him, you are now seeing the difference with a dunce like Monk in control of the bench and tactics.

Playing "the swansea way" is a totally daft concept without the right tactical approach and ability to modify systems within a game, if i know this how the fook doesnt Garry Monk and the board ??

Muppets mun !
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Fairplay mate well said.
 
Stereo said:
Garry Monk doesn't deserve the bile being spat at him, the board sacked ML and put Garry in charge. All this grief is the boards doing.
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I suspect Monk was involved in the unsettling process.. running to Chairman to complain about coaching etc.
 
Certain senior players complained about Laudrups methods in the USA and they did the same after the Cardiff game,Ash williams went to the chairman to complain about the preparation and to say they wernt being worked hard enough etc,etc . Huw was seething after the cardiff game himself so it was the perfect storm in that respect.

Monk may not have coverted the managers job specifically but he was instrumental in breeding the negative feeling .
 
ivoralljack said:
We had a perfectly good goal disallowed against Valencia that would have given us a draw.

The club cat could have motivated us to beat Cardiff at home.

The reality is that Jenkins panicked and Monk is definitely not the answer.
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We lost to Valencia - end of.

I could equally argue that Palace should not have been awarded their equalising penalty. Similarly, we could/should have been awarded a penalty yesterday. Both decisions went against us - end of.
 
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