Off Topic Migrant crisis
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There is always a temptation to look back with rose tinted glasses. However, I do believe the UK was in better place when I was say 20 to 40. (1969 to 1989). It certainly wasn't perfect, but the national infrastructure seemed able to deal with the size of the population. The problem is my generation and possibly the obe before has broken our contract with the government. We were supposed to retire at 65 and die at 70. We don't die so early these days thanks mainly to better diet and medical advances.
Now if you want to decide what size of population the UK can sustain. I would say it has gone past its maximum. We probably need to reduce it by 5 to 10 million. The problem that no politicians seem to be willing to discuss is that our population is ageing and will likely continue to do so. Importing younger people is not the answer because they in turn will get older. We have to work out how to survive with the expected age mix without immigration. Not easy I know.
However, there are some positives. Retired people are generally better off and healthier than they used to be (I know a lot are not, but they are in a minority). Whenever I've been asked how would i raise money I've always replied raise taxation on well off pensioners like me. For the life of me I cannot understand why we don't pay NI, even at reduced rate to cover some National Health spending.
So yes at the very least we need to not increase our population from what it is and probably decrease it to fit our infrastructure as we don't seem to able to build infrastructure to cope with the increase that has already taken place.
Now if you want to decide what size of population the UK can sustain. I would say it has gone past its maximum. We probably need to reduce it by 5 to 10 million. The problem that no politicians seem to be willing to discuss is that our population is ageing and will likely continue to do so. Importing younger people is not the answer because they in turn will get older. We have to work out how to survive with the expected age mix without immigration. Not easy I know.
However, there are some positives. Retired people are generally better off and healthier than they used to be (I know a lot are not, but they are in a minority). Whenever I've been asked how would i raise money I've always replied raise taxation on well off pensioners like me. For the life of me I cannot understand why we don't pay NI, even at reduced rate to cover some National Health spending.
So yes at the very least we need to not increase our population from what it is and probably decrease it to fit our infrastructure as we don't seem to able to build infrastructure to cope with the increase that has already taken place.
UK deaths are now expected to outnumber UK births for the foreseeable future. All we need to do is make immigration net zero and ensure that those entering really do pay their way and the population will steadily decrease back to manageable levels. Deport any foreigner who commits a crime, to speed up the process
Hospital waiting lists would fall, the housing shortage would be solved, the benefits bill would go down, prisons would stop being overcrowded, wrong-doers could be given appropriate prison sentences, people could get a GP appointment the same day, traffic on the roads would decrease, trains wouldn’t be overcrowded, the Police could become pro-active again, crime would fall, school classrooms wouldn’t be packed with 40/45 children, companies wouldn’t experience ‘higher than expected call volumes’ permanently.
It is really very simple.
Hospital waiting lists would fall, the housing shortage would be solved, the benefits bill would go down, prisons would stop being overcrowded, wrong-doers could be given appropriate prison sentences, people could get a GP appointment the same day, traffic on the roads would decrease, trains wouldn’t be overcrowded, the Police could become pro-active again, crime would fall, school classrooms wouldn’t be packed with 40/45 children, companies wouldn’t experience ‘higher than expected call volumes’ permanently.
It is really very simple.