Match Day Thread Middlesbrough v Hull City

[tigers1970]

I think it was getting 3 points.

Well done rosenior....still not a fan of him though

 

[Top_Tiger]

Allsopp’s double save half way through the second half was probably a better save than at the end, but both where match defining.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Well done rosenior....still not a fan of him though

Wonder why.

 

[Off The Line]

That was potentially a BIG second half in the context of the season. Well done lads, that took guts indeed.

 

[Amin Arrears]

it’s fairly simple, he’s not a winger. So stop playing him there for our sake and his sake. Same with Adama, he’s a classy on the ball probably a far better technical player than Twine but can’t show it on the wings. It’s making them look players they aren’t.

Id like to see Vinagre and Vaughan get a bit of game time. Both can go past a man, which is not in Twines locker. He’s a simple player passes what he sees infront of him, turning and find space with the ball isn’t in his game.

I think the Twine/Traore can do a job out wide when they’re complemented with a marauding full back pushing ahead in the wide role. When it’s the likes of Philogene and Lokilo providing all the width and you don’t make any other alterations to replace them when they’re not available, it’s going to have a consequence.

Slater, Traore, Twine, Tufan and whoever else tends to get picked in these spots do not and can not play the way those wingers play and it shows. It then makes our transitioning much more ponderous and predictable and the whole team becomes much easier to defend against because we’re just playing in front of them all the time.

 

[Summerof69]

I think we were due one of those games.

First half we were dreadful, couldn’t pick a pass and kept giving the ball away cheaply. Thankfully, we gradually dragged them down to our level and then some good tactical and personnel switches swung it our way. Even then it was edge of the seat stuff right until the final whistle but so good to see that reaction from the whole team when it finally came. Also showed that the other players are behind Allsop, even if he has had a couple of games laced with errors.

 

[Tony Angelino]

Looks like Plan B worked.

Amazing what happens if we play players in there best positions. Ie a lb any lb and tufan centrally

 

[Evington]

It doesn't change the fact that he's made a couple of mistakes in recent weeks, you're right. But it does remind you of the context that he's been good overall, saved us on multiple occasions including tonight, and puts the two mistakes into a context that shows how reactionary and over the top the calls to drop him were, as well as the accusations that he plays not on merit but because he's Rosenior's mate.

I'm ambivalent about this but all I will say is this. The conversation runs and runs as a result of Ingram being dropped for not doing a lot wrong. I don't disagree that Allsop seems better with the ball at his feet. Ingram seems better at stopping shots. It's the managers call at the end of the day. I expect this discussion to run until the end of the season if/when the current incumbent drops another one in the eyes of some.

 

[petersaxton]

Christie is finished, we need a new RB in January

Coyle?

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

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And that is everything having a football team in your blood is all about. Great scenes.

 

[petersaxton]

I'm ambivalent about this but all I will say is this. The conversation runs and runs as a result of Ingram being dropped for not doing a lot wrong. I don't disagree that Allsop seems better with the ball at his feet. Ingram seems better at stopping shots. It's the managers call at the end of the day. I expect this discussion to run until the end of the season if/when the current incumbent drops another one in the eyes of some.

I like goalkeepers who stop shots
not that Ingram cant
it's just more important than being "better with the ball at his feet"

 

[Professor Tiger]

Good to see Doc provide the set up for Tufan’s winner!

 

[Nikica Jellyfish]

After rewatching the Allsop save at the death, he should hold onto the first one and actually causes the drama himself…. Chortle.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Amazing what happens if we play players in there best positions. Ie a lb any lb and tufan centrally

We scored the winner with vinagre playing left wing and Greaves at left back. Tufan always plays centrally.

 

[petersaxton]

well that was a load of pop - pile of pish - poor passing, too much messing about, one or two don't look interested - big job for Rosie to sort them out for second half - I'd take Christie off, bring Macca on and move Greaves to left back - as Chelsea says, it's still only 1 0 and we can still get something out of this because Boro aren't that good

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[springtiger]

Slaters movement and energy was good
Connolly was left on for the full 90 to give him fitness and maybe test his durability
This Team are very together .
Twine looked tired like Seri
Maybe Seri has slackened off so he is fit for the ANC ? Players do things like that before other international cups don’t they ?

 

[Kalman]

I'm ambivalent about this but all I will say is this. The conversation runs and runs as a result of Ingram being dropped for not doing a lot wrong. I don't disagree that Allsop seems better with the ball at his feet. Ingram seems better at stopping shots. It's the managers call at the end of the day. I expect this discussion to run until the end of the season if/when the current incumbent drops another one in the eyes of some.

Was going to say the same. Ingram was dropped for a whole lot less than what Allsop's been guilty of the last few weeks. That's where the accusations of Allsop being picked not based on merit/ability come from.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Was going to say the same. Ingram was dropped for a whole lot less than what Allsop's been guilty of the last few weeks. That's where the accusations of Allsop being picked not based on merit/ability come from.

Not sure Ingram was even dropped for anything, it was just a perceived upgrade was signed.

 

[Idi Amin]

Not sure Ingram was even dropped for anything, it was just a perceived upgrade was signed.

This

 

[petersaxton]

Vinagre, Tufan, Traore, Slater, Connolly and Allsop all stake a very strong claim tonight to be starting / continuing to start, and in their preferred positions, for the foreseeable. Some players looked ****ing stale - but it's a long season and we've stuck to a fairly similar starting 11 for a while now. Rosenior needs to start playing players from minute 1 in their natural positions (where he can) and not shoehorning the same ones into the side. It makes the subs look effective as we improve when we make them, but you'd argue many of those subs should be starting, certainly while the wingers are out.

Interestingly we had less possession in that game and most of our best chances came from longer balls.

I'd go with 5-3-2 with wing backs (Coyle & Vinagre)
Christie is too risky defensively