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I tell you what, and I say this without even the tiniest hint of irony - I ****ing love Chris Hootun I do!!

Couldn't have been happier for him last night, very possibly his finest hour as Norwich manager and hopefully the catalyst to a strong end of season and top ten finish <ok>
 
robbieBB said:
My point is precisely that. As with all teams most of the time, our variable performances are down to the players available for selection and their performances on the pitch. To say that CH "pulls it out of the bag [only] when he really needs to" implies that in between these supposedly "crunch" games, he in some way doesn't try, spends his time on the golf course instead of the training pitch, or otherwise takes his eye off the managerial ball. That only has to be stated explicitly to reveal it for the rubbish it is, which is what I was saying.

The other similarly ridiculous comment is about him "lacking balls" and then suddenly showing he has them when a crunch game comes around. The guy has real courage, not the keyboard warrior type of courage opinionated and critical without responsibility. CH is a good, thoroughly professional manager as well as a thoroughly good guy, and if everybody gets behind him he will prove it at Carrow Road. <ok>
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That, I hope will happen. I said ages ago I think he is the kind of manager who needs a bit of time to put a strong team together, it seems to me he works in quite a methodical way and eventually I think it will work. Despite some of our results and what people say we are not far off being a very decent prem team. Small margins of course.
 
We have spoken before on various threads about luck and maybe yesterday we actually had some. Three or so wonderful saves from JR and a couple of awful misses from Soldado. This makes up a bit for unlucky losses to West Ham and Cardiff and sets us up for an exciting climax to the season. Well done CH well done Norwich City.
 
Tony_Munky_Canary said:
I tell you what, and I say this without even the tiniest hint of irony - I ****ing love Chris Hootun I do!!

Couldn't have been happier for him last night, very possibly his finest hour as Norwich manager and hopefully the catalyst to a strong end of season and top ten finish <ok>
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Fair enough, though I still think his finest hour was beating Man U at home last season.
 
tipsycanary said:
That, I hope will happen. I said ages ago I think he is the kind of manager who needs a bit of time to put a strong team together, it seems to me he works in quite a methodical way and eventually I think it will work. Despite some of our results and what people say we are not far off being a very decent prem team. Small margins of course.
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<ok> Tipsy. Re. his needing time, CH is actually relatively inexperienced as a manager (for example, he's managed for just over half as many games as Paul Lambert, and PL is regarded as pretty inexperienced). Makes what CH is doing at Carrow Road in terms of modernising the backroom, rebuilding the team, improving the all round quality etc. all the more creditable IMO. I'm with Munky, I admire him for what he has already done for us and what he is in process of doing. <ok>
 
Canary Rob said:
Fair enough, though I still think his finest hour was beating Man U at home last season.
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It possibly was, but don't forget we were on a roll back then and everything was looking far more positive. There was an awful lot of pressure on him yesterday, much of it ridiculous in my opinion, and Spurs came into the game with the best away record in the division after hammering Newcastle away in their last game. Everything pointed to us being outclassed again, but it was in fact the opposite, and all three of the Spurs fans I've spoken to this morning had nothing but admiration for our performance and the way we were tactically set up from the off. Everything went absolutely according to plan and has lifted the spirits around the club - even within some of the outers - at a time when it needed to so that's why I consider it as potentially his finest hour yet.
 
Tony_Munky_Canary said:
Everything went absolutely according to plan and has lifted the spirits around the club - even within some of the outers - at a time when it needed to so that's why I consider it as potentially his finest hour yet.
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You're right, Munky, there was a sense of unity and (dare I say) belief at the final whistle yesterday which has been largely absent this season. Having Howson and Wes both on the bench was a tremendous boost to inners, outers and shake it all abouters, too <ok>
 
DHCanary said:
True, I must admit I was baffled as to why you ever loaned him out in the first place!
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He and Laudrup fell out, and he was not prepared to sit on the bench all season and watch someone like De Guzman (Laudrups pet) play in front of him?...............<ok>
 
Tony_Munky_Canary said:
It possibly was, but don't forget we were on a roll back then and everything was looking far more positive. There was an awful lot of pressure on him yesterday, much of it ridiculous in my opinion, and Spurs came into the game with the best away record in the division after hammering Newcastle away in their last game. Everything pointed to us being outclassed again, but it was in fact the opposite, and all three of the Spurs fans I've spoken to this morning had nothing but admiration for our performance and the way we were tactically set up from the off. Everything went absolutely according to plan and has lifted the spirits around the club - even within some of the outers - at a time when it needed to so that's why I consider it as potentially his finest hour yet.
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It's true that the circumstances were very different and actually impossible to compare, but my reasoning is that this Spurs is a completely different proposition compared to the Man U team which ran away with the title by 12 points. Beating them, managed by Fergie, was a much more impressive achievement in my book and even better than the 2-0 victory achieved by Worthington.

I think the circumstances of yesterday and the "shock" of the result have been overstated somewhat. I don't think there was any more pressure on him yesterday than there was, for example, away to West Brom or at other low points this season (or even occasionally last). This perception of pressure caused by McNally's comments was purely a fiction in the media based on an ambiguous one-line answer to a direct question in a very long and otherwise wholly supportive interview.

As for the teams - Spurs have notoriously struggled following Europa League matches (yes, lots of players were rested, but still 7 players who played on Thursday started), their form has been shakier than their results suggest (Sherwood has been very lucky IMO and it's no surprise that many Spurs fans are unconvinced despite the good run because he is tactically questionable), we have actually been in good form despite our results and we have actually been consistently strong at home, with several clean sheets in a row. That was why I put my money on us to win 1-0 at 11 to 1. My only regret is that I didn't have more conviction and only bet £3!!!
 
JKCanary said:
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that I had noticed that. I thought it had been scrapped too.
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We scored so infrequently while it was gone that we had just sort of forgotten it was taken away in the first place. I personally like it and think that the fans usually do what they want the second the goal goes in but then it's nice to stay cheering to the music, especially when it loops back around. Just makes the noise of the crowd last longer.
 
canary_max said:
i make it 4 clean sheets in a row at home, Newcastle, Hull, Man city and Spurs
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PL Clean Sheet Table 2013-14 (not including the last round of matches)

1 West Ham
2 Arsenal
3 Chelsea
4 Spurs
5 Man City
6 Norwich
7 Southampton
8 Everton
9 Man U
10 Hull
11 Newcastle
12 Palace
13 Sunderland
14 Villa
15 Liverpool
16 Swansea
17 Cardiff
18 Stoke
19 WBA
20 Fulham

We have kept 10 so far, same as Man City and Saints (tho' Man City have played one game fewer). WHU at the top have 13, Fulham at the bottom only 3. <ok>

Note: Chelsea, Man City, Newcastle, Hull, Man Utd and ourselves all kept another CS this weekend, so we are up to 11 in all, that's nearly 41% of our matches.
 
K E M P said:
If we could I pour scoring ratio then bobs your uncle etc....
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Yes indeed. I think CH has got it right though: it is better to be needing to score more goals than to be needing to stop conceding them. The stats prove it: 0>1, i.e none conceded is more valuable in terms of points than one scored. <ok>
 
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