Aber! =]
Have to say I respect how you didn't fly off the hook with me.
We're all massive, obsessive Cardiff fans, we all love football and our football club- but it's only natural that we aren't all exactly the same people!!
I'm 21 years old and to most of you, you think I'm a kid, or an idiot.
However, in fairness I've been through more in my life than a lot of 40+ year olds, and I am constantly being told that. I don't want to go into it, but long and short, I'm not a kid!
I'm not in any way immature at all, there again, I understand how being born after the fact will definitely hinder my views.
I don't have the right amount of knowledge on the topic to argue politics, but I'm all up for discussing morals.
(Of which I know you will say MT had none - I'm not going to disagree with you)
I don't think getting into the type of upbringing / area everyone is associated with is a good idea, we should be judging eachother on how we are, not who we are... but yet again I see exactly where you are coming from. Certain areas are indeed Labour dominant, some are Tory dominant.
However, nowadays, they are all the fking same!!
Think about it, Blair, Brown, and that moron Miliband are all privately educated and Oxbridge bloody doctorates!
That's not the point though.
Recently I lost a mate, after a tumultuous relationship including a particularly fearsome throw and subsequent knock out by me ( 6"2 225 lbs - grrrr), and as much of a bastard he may have been, as much of my life as he ruined. (He ****ed up a lot by the way and did some terrible things) I'm going to his funeral with forgiveness, because that shows me to be the better person, I suppose it's just the right thing to do.
Everyone knows what Margaret Thatcher did to the Mines and working class, especially in Wales!
To conclude....
By all means, get p!ssed out of your mind and have a little dance...
I just found it slightly, I don't know, shocking- all the comments being posted right after her death that's all.
Dignity in victory and all that...
Cheers guys, onto the next match... and promotion?
UNI,
Don't apologise!!! Yes you are a kid and an idiot...but you are supposed to be!!! You're a student ffs....it's part of the rite of passage!!!!!! And please don't be offended by qhat I just said. it's a joke.
But while you are shocked...and I have shocked myself that I can feel (still!) so angry about the woman but it goes to show how deeply she wounded the country. Yes she was democratically elected but I believe she abused her power and set out on a path which surely ruined the country in general and most of the ining areas in particular. She was particularly vicious i can tell you and used all means to achieve her ends....which were based on dogma, as I said earlier. She had specific views about organisatinos and people which, in the event have proved wrong, but the policies were driven through anyway.
I could go on but won't.....the bile is rising again.
I'm glad you can forgive your mate...that's what it is all about, in the normal course of things. but maybe you can see the depth of feeling from the various replies you have seen.
Like Aber said, least said now soonest mended but somethign had to be said to counter the crap that goes around as a eulogy.
And, thanks to all for letting me vent this lot on all of you......it's been rather cathartic.
.......western democracy is an illusion of freedom when its governed the way the capitalists 
