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Manure running scared

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  1. shwan

    shwan Well-Known Member

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    exactly .. the whole idea of mutual consent, is that so an employee has no entitlement to claim unfair dismissal .. so they give the managers some money to shut up and leave nicely instead of paying the whole remaining contract ..
     
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  2. shwan

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    yeah that is what chelsea fans seem think any manger will do ? let alone a self centered one with big ego like jose <laugh>
     
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    I think its ****ing funny, the denial Chelsea fans are in, RA sacked every manager after Jose but he didnt sack Jose? Yeah riiiight

    They all went in the same manner, with a nice payoff but for some reason the others were sacked and only Jose left.

    Jose isn't even saying Mutual consent, he is saying "He" left Chelsea, and if that were true he would not have gotten a penny. It would have been him paying Roman a few bob
     
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    No matter what logic you use, they resort to, "Show us the proof" and believe Jose's statements when the guy is a proven liar and malcontent.

    He has not changed, Roman has not changed, it does not bode well for a healthy working environment. Rafa said RA rules the club in a way no owner should, so lets see how this all unfolds, I can't see him being there any longer than he was last time tbh

    I am happy he's back though as long as he doesn't start making up lies about managers visiting refs in their dressing rooms and the like again.

    He managed to turn everyone against him at Madrid.
     
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  5. Drogs

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    why wouldn't he say that? Not exactly an abnormal thing to say, he wasn't sacked, neither the club nor him said it. I don't know why this bothers you lot so much.

    as for your second part I'll revert to my comment to sisu - concrete evidence please. That telegraph article do
     
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  6. Drogs

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    that's ****ing priceless. Seriously one of the thickest comments I think I've ever seen.

    Climb out of their arses son.
     
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  8. District Line

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    Sacking = Termination of contract against the will of the employee
    Mutual Consent = Termination of contract due to agreement between employee and employer

    In leymans terms....

    Sacking = When you don't want to leave
    Mutual Consent = When you want to leave

    Sackings are far more acrimonious, can go as far as court due to claims of unfair dismissal (just about the only bit of sense Shwan has written in his life).

    Jose's situation was pretty much the same as it was at Madrid, jump or be pushed.

    Think about it. Jose is unhappy, Roman is unhappy. Jose is a fan favourite. If he walks out on Chelsea (and the fans) he's the villain, if Roman sacks him then he's the villain. Neither wants to come out of the situation badly so mutual consent is the best way to end things.

    When you apply a bit of common sense and rationality - which isn't a profound concept to some on here - it really isn't that difficult a concept to understand.
     
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  9. Drogs

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    what part of 'concrete evidence' do you not understand? The fact you just put the daily ****ing mail <doh> just renders my earlier point about you believing anything you read unless it's about your team to be true. And when you say every do you mean the other two? Twat.
     
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  10. theevilreddevil

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    Don't waste your time trying to prove something they wont accept, just like they can't accept the fact he was never offered the united job... Even if Jose said it they are so deluded they still wouldn't believe it. Everyone knows he WAS SACKED why else would he have got a payoff. Fact is he was told he would get sacked if he didn't mutual agree to leave, he had no option........
     
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    Why would he care if he got sacked? Surely he'd get a bigger pay off?
     
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  12. theevilreddevil

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    Wouldn't have looked good on his CV :1980_boogie_down:
     
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    And his ego wouldn't have allowed himself to have that SACKED tag attached to him
     
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    Sacked by Gremio
    Sacked by Chelsea
    Sacked by Madrid


    And re proof, apparently Jose himself saying Chelsea shouldn't have sacked him is not proof
     
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  15. Drogs

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    you still haven't provided this proof.
     
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    Again, the insulting, that's what led to my last ban on your board. I just won't be getting into your ****ed up bitter abusive world mate where you call a footballer who acts the bollox a scumbag but is otherwise a decent human being and defend a gangster involved with murder and misery peddlers like Putin.

    No one said anything about proof except you Drogs, I just posted links of reports of what Jose said prior to the Chelsea game, I never mentioned proof.

    The links just irritated you obviously cos they go against what you are forcing yourself to believe, you just result to insulting when someone wont agree with you. Kind of sad really. can't you just have the banter without crying, you cry a lot lately.

    Jose said Chelsea were wrong to sack him, if that is not good enough for you, nothing will be.
     
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  17. Drogs

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    <laugh> unbelievable. You really are one thick little man. You're making no sense whatsoever now, you are disputing my concrete evidence of Jose physically saying he was not sacked and that his departure was mutual by using your apparent 'logic' to decipher Roman's thoughts in 2007.

    I've asked on numerous occasions now for your concrete proof to back up your posts by showing me where Jose/Chelsea actually said he was sacked, you still haven't presented these sources except for the odd shower of ****e rag newspaper.

    p.s. why the **** are you bringing other footballers into this? Stick to the discussion in hand. As for 'banter', this isn't it. You are not displaying any sign of having banter, you're a bitter and twisted Liverpool fan and despite your infinite arse licking of the Untied fans, they will sure as **** back me up with regard to that.
     
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    Drogs, I can only imagine you bashed this out as fast as your fingers would turn your bile into words. The various insults show that.

    "One thick little man" and "Twisted Bitter Liverpool fan"

    Was it not you that started jumping on my posts on the Manchester United board, that is the case, you came in trolling and took issue with my posts.

    I mention footballers because I call your character into question. It's hypocritical to the extreme, you are a sad little troll who cant stay away from this board. You defend scum and slate decent people and you abuse anyone who doesn't agree with your skewed view and you cause discussion and banter to descend into this type of thing because of your own bitterness which is probably rooted outside of anything football. In short when you don't get your own way you act like a petulant 5 year old who resorts to abuse and rants like the above.

    I couldn't care if you want proof I will still post that Jose got sacked, and that irritates the crap out of you, that's your problem so you'll have to deal with it, but why the personal insults? your anger is misplaced dude.

    BTW, Jose got sacked by Chelsea
     
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  19. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    seriously, log off and don't return. Your opinions are all invalid and nobody gives a flying **** about what you post. You are the ultimate ****.
     
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  20. theevilreddevil

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    He's not arse licking united fans he just ain't self-delusional like you lot. He has a unbiased point of view, well its just common sense really something you and DL don't have a lot of..
     
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