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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Sanj, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    Seems to get the best out of his teams too. Overachieved with Wigan and has Everton looking like strong contenders for the last CL spot
     
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  2. Bullet tooth Tony

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    Klopp nailed on. You heard it here first.
     
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  3. Sanj

    Sanj Well-Known Member

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    Three defeats in a row. <laugh>
     
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  4. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    What a ****ing shower of ****e they have become, even worse than the spuds <laugh>
     
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  5. Han Shot First

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    Hee-haw, bunch of donkeys <laugh>
     
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  6. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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  7. Not PC enough

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    #6moreyearsMoyes
    <rofl>
     
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  8. Daveunited

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    Get that Chequebook out Moyes FFS
    <doh>
     
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  9. The Bonstar Wandit

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    It's a tough one. Fergie left what is a very ageing squad that on tonights performance are very disinterested.

    Nani, Anderson, Giggs, Evra, Ferdinand all need to be moved on & replacements found. Cleverly is severely low on confidence. They are in a big transition period, and Moyes needs to spend. The problem is, his signings will be scrutinised hard, especially if he pays over the odds as it's January.

    If he doesn't sign anyone, he's in trouble, if he does, he'd better get it right.
     
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    And that takes some doing when ya s***er than dad's army you know your in trouble <laugh> <ok>
     
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  11. Arsenal87

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    The solution sounds simple, get rid of the deadwood, and sign top top quality players....But as we saw with Arsenal over the last 3 years, simply getting rid of the deadwood and then bringing in top quality to replace them is easier said than done. United have so much deadwood, and have so many areas they need massive improvements from, something that isn't going to simply get fixed by this or the next transfer window. Plus if they continue on this **** form, they're going to struggle to keep their only good players like Rooney, and RVP.
     
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  12. Arsenal87

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    As I said, just getting the chequebook out and buying top quality and getting rid of the deadwood sounds simple, but it's not that simple, I think United may need 2 more seasons to reach back to their top level, similar to what happened to them in 2004, from 2004-2006 they were in a transition period, then from 2007 they kicked off again.
     
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  13. ToledoTrumpton

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    I think they are in worse trouble than 2004.

    The young players are not good enough, the players in their prime don't look like they give a toss, and the old players look well past it.

    If you had unlimited funds you could make a case for getting rid of 15-20 of their first team squad. Even if you are charitable and say the number is 10, you are talking 200-300M just in transfer fees, and that is if you can find them. And the man at the helm has never had to do that kind of thing before.
     
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  14. lazarus20000

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  15. winifred122

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    Last nights game was a poor show. Sunderland were not the highest standard United will meet this seaon and, without doubt they struggled. It comes to something desperarte when your best player is a 40 year old who should be enjoying a long and well deserved retirement instead of having to come to the rescue of a team that were last years champions. It also cannot be helpfulo to Moyes to have Fergie in attendance at every game hovering over him like the spectre of doom. However, am I bovvered? Nah - I'm enjoying watching United suffer. I have a feeling it wont last long.
     
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  16. PINKIE

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  17. ToledoTrumpton

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    It was a fairly soft penalty, but clumsy defending, and we have seen them given against us a time or two. I've watched it several times and I think I would have given it.

    It is either an outstanding piece of diving, or he gets clipped pretty bad; the way he goes down, looks completely congruent with the hip-check tackle, he seems to get.

    Not sure it is irony though - more like karma!
     
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  18. Arsenal87

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  19. gooner4ever

    gooner4ever once a Gooner always a Gooner
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    i think Moyes was misquoted - he said "we are having to PAY referees".
     
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  20. PINKIE

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    <laugh>
     
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