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Sheep Farmer said:
JR was "hounded out" for the same reason that folk want PP gone and the same reason we've sacked all our managers - the results weren't up to expectations. "Standing still on the touchline", "hoofball" and other epithets were merely attempts to explain their lack of success in simple terms
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Sheep Farmer said:
You can disagree about him playing hoofball but the posts are undeniable. Didn't say that was my opinion just that it was posted and therefore someone's opinion
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I see your points.

I can only speak from a personal perspective, and personally, I really wanted JR to stay, and am still unhappy that he has gone. I think he was trying to build something, and I would have very much liked him to get more time, and he will go on to a very solid managerial career.

Crowds or groups of people (for example on a forum) will jump onto a rhetoric or 'line' that supports their opinion - like the JR standing on the touchline thing. It gets enough 'likes' and 'bumps' and eventually starts to take on a life of its own, and begins to be the big stick folks are looking for to support their opinion.

I don't want PP, I don't think he is what the club needs, he reminds me of Grayson and Wilkinson, and I think SD has made a mistake. But, again, opinions, everyone has one... I'd like nothing more than for him to get it right, I'm genuinely starting to fear we could be on the verge of a lengthy stay in the lower leagues.
 
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I agree with you entirely about Ross but am prepared to let PP bring in his own players to fit his own style before wanting him binned. He's been successful(as successful as we need him to be atm anyway) before, so obviously not the complete div that a lot of posters would have us believe.
 
I don't think he's stupid, or a poor manager, as you say, he's had success at this level in the past, and again, the rhetoric of those wanting him gone now are finding sticks to beat him with. I've nothing against him as a person, or indeed a manager, I just don't think he is what we need. If he gets us out of the league I will own my mistake though and give him the praise he deserves.
 
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When he got the job I thought he was a dull, unimaginative, uninspiring choice. I was right. He should be nowhere near out club.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
As @Nads says, can't see Parkinson being sacked. Neither can I see any other manager making much of a difference because we have an average League 1 team and therefore can't expect anything other than an average League 1 finish. The only hope is that we could bring someone in who would give everyone a lift. The obvious person in that case is Phillips but I wouldn't be surprised if he followed Pearson to Watford, another of his former clubs.
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This team was in 6th place before PP came in and only about 5-6 points off automatic spots, it’s the manager not the players, it’s a decent enough squad to compete in this league
 
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FulwellBri said:
You come out with some right twaddle.
Must be a decade or so since reid last managed and that was Plymouth and he was an unmitigated disaster.
Philipps has never managed and despite being on the dole for nearly a year no one seems interested in him even as a bib boy for a proper manager.
Stick to your hilarious 'parkinson is gone ' posts. They really add to your credibility
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Who cares if Phillips hasn’t managed, you can’t be a manager unless you are given your first job!! Gerrard and Lampard have done well we zero experience, even at the lower levels Bowyer and Barton have done well in there first jobs
 
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SKP said:
This team was in 6th place before PP came in and only about 5-6 points off automatic spots, it’s the manager not the players, it’s a decent enough squad to compete in this league
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I can't be bothered writing it all out again, so I'll refer you back to my previous posts about how much difference a manager makes. Parkinson is a poor manager, yes. Ross was getting the most out of that team. It's a poor team.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
I can't be bothered writing it all out again, so I'll refer you back to my previous posts about how much difference a manager makes. Parkinson is a poor manager, yes. Ross was getting the most out of that team. It's a poor team.
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It’s nowhere near as bad a team as people are making out, this team should be atleast in playoff places. Ross was getting the most out of the team because that’s what’s good manager does
 
SKP said:
That’s my point from the start, the players are good enough to compete in this league , but not with PP tactics
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Ok. I disagree. It's an average team. Ross was getting them to perform above themselves because he's a good manager. He would have got them to the playoffs. Parkinson will get them to mid table. Their real position would be around 10th.
 
Rocky said:
When he got the job I thought he was a dull, unimaginative, uninspiring choice. I was right. He should be nowhere near out club.
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This. If you're going to get rid of Ross, who was doing ok in the main, you've got to make damn sure what you're getting is an upgrade, somebody that is going to lift the place. We got the exact opposite, instead of lifting the place he's just lifting in every way.
 
SKP said:
That’s my point from the start, the players are good enough to compete in this league , but not with PP tactics
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I agree that the players are good enough to compete in this league, but not good enough to dominate teams in the top half (or even some in the bottom half). That's why we need reinforcements in January. PP has identified the type of player he wants (pace and power), which most people would agree with, and has indicated the way he wants to play.
The problem is he's started setting up his teams to play that way, when right now, we clearly don't have the personnel to do so.
 
The problem to me is I don’t want to watch hoof ball football, it’s awful to watch
 
The Norton Cat said:
Ok. I disagree. It's an average team. Ross was getting them to perform above themselves because he's a good manager. He would have got them to the playoffs. Parkinson will get them to mid table. Their real position would be around 10th.
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It’s a top 6 squad easily with the manager , the standard throughout the league is poor, even when we played Wycombe in PP first game they were poor
 
The defence is the strongest part of the team. Going forward there is little creativity, little pace, no one to hold the ball up, no one who can finish. That is reduced further if McGeady and Maguire leave. You can't expect to compete at any level without those things.
 
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