They can value anything at what they want, when it floats the true perceived value becomes very apparent, Facebook 
Man Utd flotation?
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Who'd pay 14$ a share with those two greedy cnuts at the helm, they conceiveable could bury the club.
6* not 2.
and apparently plenty of people paid $14 a share, so erm.....those people.
Ask yourself, why would anyone, especially the money making machines the glazer family want to destroy United? They will one day sell us for an insane figure which will only happen if they keep the value high.
Thats directly from analysts discussing united and the glaziers on US TV, not me mate so..
Also, without Fergie with the glaziers at the helm, where would United be now?
Without Fergie possibly no CL every year far less titles, so in essence Fergie suceeded despite of them not because of them.
All ifs and buts.
The facts are they have doubled the value of the club.
The reports from some 'reporters' and 'analysts' are far off the mark. Almost like hey are anti glazer puppets.
Share value down already.
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Isnt that what shares do, fluctuate?
They will go up and down many more times I am sure.
What point if any are you trying to make?
On the first day of trading amid all the euphoria Utd's shares take a tumble,doesn't bode well for the Glazers franchise.
On the first day of trading amid all the euphoria Utd's shares take a tumble,doesn't bode well for the Glazers franchise.
5cents is hardly tumble really is it?
Its knocked $800k off our valuation. Ouch!
Many financial analysts(not including yourself)say the IPO idea will struggle to reach it's objective.
Shares going down by 0.05 cents on the first day of an IPO is not a tumble but a standard thing for anyone who keeps an eye out for these things.
If anyone wants to know what a catastrophic IPO looks like, then you just need to look at the Facebook IPO which happened just recently.
If anyone wants to know what a catastrophic IPO looks like, then you just need to look at the Facebook IPO which happened just recently.
Glazier has no interest in Man Utd, he is purely interested asset stripping the club and taking it and it's fans for all he can. He will leave it a busted club
Many financial analysts(not including yourself)say the IPO idea will struggle to reach it's objective.
Many more disagree with those people though.
How much interest do FSG have in Liverpool?
**** all it seems, besides buying the club what else have they done so far? Out of interest?
But for some on Wall Street, the financials just do not add up. The club is using money to pay down part of its $683m (£437m) debt but will still be saddled with debts of $573m (£366m) after the deal is done. Last year its revenues were £331m ($516m) – at $2.3bn the club is valued at 130 times those earnings, meaning it would take 130 years for the club to make that much money. It makes the $480m the Boston Red Sox owner paid for Liverpool, United's arch-rivals, look like a bargain.
There is a reason for that. FSG got Liverpool for a pittance as RBS practically owned us. RBS wanted their money, FSG stumped up the cash and paid RBS, Hicks and Gillett lost out on possibly £140 million. Everybody with the exception of Hicks and Gillett are winners.
Liverpool were a rip off
Fleeced
We know. FSG didn't pay enough for Liverpool. They got Liverpool for half the price they should have, not that they are complaining.
Many financial analysts(not including yourself)say the IPO idea will struggle to reach it's objective.
You could say that most of these analysts know much more than the rest of us so its always wise to read their thoughts because if the IPO doesn't go to plan then you wont be surprised. When the Facebook IPO happened, quite a few analysts said it would end in failure and we all know what happened after that.
The club was meant to put the class A shares up for sale at $16 to $20 per share but after speaking to some high profile investors, some said they would be reluctant to buy at that price but would be willing to buy at a reduced offer. This is what happened then and then the IPO was over subscribed meaning the shares were bought. I reckon that if the Glazers stuck to the plan and sold them at the original price then they wont have sold all the shares so the Glazers took the sensible decision and reduced the share price as they wont want people to think the start of the IPO was not a success.
Reducing the share price won't come without some bad news. The club expected to raise $333 million with the initial price share but after reducing the price, they will raise roughly $233 million.
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