Magnanimous In Defeat

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johnnywarksmoustache

johnnywarksmoustache

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Now that the dust has settled and I have calmed down a little from yesterday, I would just like to offer my congratulations on a well deserved Derby victory. There is no way that I can dress it up as we were second best all over the park and although this is one of the worst Town sides in living memory, this is no excuse, as you can only play what's in front of you. I am pretty disgusted with the circus that has become my once great club and I fear that there is a far worse fate that awaits us this season. We've got Derby away next week and I can see us getting a right good doing up there as well!

Anyhoo to the victor the spoils and I just hope that one day we will be in a position to give you a decent game! I only hope that our players are hurting as badly as the poor supporters who pay their wages! <ok>
 
Best of luck with the relegation campaign, of course I'm lying when I say that I mean it most sincerely.

You really do have a rotten side there and the style of football is not fit for the Championship (or any level of football to be fair).
 
i genuinely think yesterday was arguably the worst derby game i can recall in terms of overall quality (and i've been to every single one since 1992 bar yesterday and one other). it was far too easy for norwich. the quality of ipswich's play was astoundingly awful to watch and i actually feel the norwich players will look back at that today slightly embarrassed and wonder how they only won 1-0. we never got going at all, barely got out of first gear, yet still created a number of clear cut chances which really should have been buried - they were straight forward, gilt-edged opportunities. i still maintain what i said yesterday, that the gap between the two teams is significantly bigger than it was when we won 9-2, its just city played brilliantly that night. ipswich had a much better side back then and offered more, despite the humiliation. they just met us on a day where we got everything right. saturday from ipswich's point of view was wretched; mind-numbingly bad football. mick mccarthy can moan all he likes about financial fair play and that we are lucky to have the money from the premier league (of course, we didn't earn the right to get that money... oh no!) - yes most of them were free transfers but he's signed some cloggers on big wages. he really doesn't have any excuse for playing that way. hughton got criticised (quite rightly) at city for being too cautious, albeit in a much tougher league, but i never witnessed any hoofball like ipswich yesterday. it was like john beck had come back into football management. genuinely shocking to watch and one of the neutrals i watched the game with couldn't stop laughing at how bad they were - and he supports southend for goodness sake!!
 
good comment at the bottom too :

"GazzaTCC says:
August 24, 2014 at 10:16 am
Am I the only one who is finding MM&#8217;s moaning about FFP tiresome and boring?

Parachute payments are not, as many Championship clubs would have you believe, a &#8220;reward for the failure&#8221;, they&#8217;re part of the prize for promotion to the Premier League in the first place.

Mick should spend more time and effort of the training ground getting his players playing football, rather than goofball. Then, and only then, will he have a chance of promotion and all the Premiership cash, plus parachute payments, which he currently so despises."

nail on head <ok>
 
Well yes MM was having a bit of a whine,but I take the general point.The money has spoiled football.Bobby Robson's achievements were substantial,(Second only in my opinion to Brian Clough's) but it was a different era,the like of which,sadly,we will never see again and anybody younger than JWM never saw at all.OK we had the Allegro ,but we had good football too.
 
We are one of the few genuine success stories in English football and our rise from LG1 to our 3 years in the Prem was not down to some foreign megabucks arsehole pumping money into our club changing the name, shirt colors ground name etc.
We are loyal fans that turn up no matter what, we pay high ticket prices and have always worked within our means on player transfers.
For M M to try and paint us as a club with an unfair advantage over the rest is just childish and pathetic, the excuse for the goal was probably bulls**t too as there were no Binners anywhere near Grabban when he headed the ball if he called "keepers" then why would Gerkin leave it?..
The guy is a t**t.
 
Oh behave yourself SN <ok>

The newly relegated clubs from the Premiership have a huge financial advantage over the rest of us which can't be denied but that is not the reason why we lost yesterday! The reason we lost is because we are just a very poor team without much quality. The fact that this team was put together without a penny being spent on it is neither here nor there. I thought you boys were pretty average and I have seen far better teams than you come here in recent seasons.
 
SUPERNORWICH 23 said:
We are one of the few genuine success stories in English football and our rise from LG1 to our 3 years in the Prem was not down to some foreign megabucks arsehole pumping money into our club changing the name, shirt colors ground name etc.
We are loyal fans that turn up no matter what...
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You should/could have been there yesterday mate, your old man lives in Ipswich, he could have got you a ticket no problem. Cracking football day out! (despite the result ;))
 
johnnywarksmoustache said:
Oh behave yourself SN <ok>

The newly relegated clubs from the Premiership have a huge financial advantage over the rest of us which can't be denied but that is not the reason why we lost yesterday! The reason we lost is because we are just a very poor team without much quality. The fact that this team was put together without a penny being spent on it is neither here nor there. I thought you boys were pretty average and I have seen far better teams than you come here in recent seasons.
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you probably have seen better teams - that's sort of the point! we weren't at the races at all yesterday, played very poorly yet still looked the far more accomplished team and should have won by a large margin. had we displayed anything like the kind of form we displayed tuesday night against blackburn in the 2nd half it would have been a cricket score.

by the way warky, do i sense a slight turn in your thoughts on big mick? as i recall you are a staunch defender of his.
 
A seriously good team would have put us to the sword yesterday in terms of the number of goals they scored - missing a hat full of chances doesn't make you a decent side just a wasteful one but hey I digress!

In terms of MM I have been a big supporter of his as he was absolutely the right man for us when he came in BUT there is now a huge question mark hanging over him. The Crawley debacle was a big eye opener for many of us and if we now don't see some serious recruitment before the window shuts I can see the loyalty evaporate. We sold Cresswell for a few million and not one penny has been reinvested so Evans is basically clawing back as much as he can whilst hiding behind FFP. Either Mick is bonkers in not wanting the cash to spend or Evans has withheld the money is another story! Whatever the case it is negligent to not spend some money on the team and those responsible will be held to account.
 
not sure you made a lot of sense warky - we played very badly yesterday! isn't it normally a sign of a good side that win when playing poorly? hooper would have had a party yesterday with those chances and the fact he and howson, two of our best players aren't even fit to make the bench shows the depth we have. to play that badly yet look so comfortable and still create so many clear cut chances shows the gulf.

i must admit i had a bit of time for mick mccarthy before yesterday, but it all went out of the window. not just for footballing reasons but for his whinging about adams forgetting to shake his hand. totally pathetic interview he gave - he clearly didn't 'get' how important the east anglian derby is to the folk in norfolk and suffolk. not sure your fans will forget his comments too quickly, especially if your results don't pick up, or your performances. evans is clearly not interested - seems bleeding obvious to all of us. initially he saw the cash cow just around the corner but now he probably owns you purely for tax purposes. if you go up i'm sure he'd be delighted and reap the rewards but i doubt he really cares. the longer he stays, the better for city imo
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
not sure you made a lot of sense warky - we played very badly yesterday! isn't it normally a sign of a good side that win when playing poorly? hooper would have had a party yesterday with those chances and the fact he and howson, two of our best players aren't even fit to make the bench shows the depth we have. to play that badly yet look so comfortable and still create so many clear cut chances shows the gulf.

i must admit i had a bit of time for mick mccarthy before yesterday, but it all went out of the window. not just for footballing reasons but for his whinging about adams forgetting to shake his hand....
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Much ado about nothing Supers, Adams was understandably jubilant at the final whistle and went to celebrate with his players, Adams apologized for the 'indiscretion' (if that's what it was) later, not that he needed to under the circumstances imo.

Sorted.
 
wellyblue said:
Much ado about nothing Supers, Adams was understandably jubilant at the final whistle and went to celebrate with his players, Adams apologized for the 'indiscretion' (if that's what it was) later, not that he needed to under the circumstances imo.

Sorted.
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agree welly. so why was mccarthy still banging on about it?

probably to take attention away from his teams feeble efforts...
 
wellyblue said:
Much ado about nothing Supers, Adams was understandably jubilant at the final whistle and went to celebrate with his players, Adams apologized for the 'indiscretion' (if that's what it was) later, not that he needed to under the circumstances imo.

Sorted.
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I agree with you to a point but it did show a degree of disrespect but as you say in the scheme of things it's a pretty pathetic thing for Mick to bang on about.
 
wellyblue said:
You should/could have been there yesterday mate, your old man lives in Ipswich, he could have got you a ticket no problem. Cracking football day out! (despite the result ;))
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Someone mentioned that you need to go to 10 Ipswich games to qualify for home tickets which seemed odd, my brother in law usually sorts out tickets for the derby but he was in Spain .
Sitting on my tod with some depressed binners didn't appeal mate.
 
SUPERNORWICH 23 said:
Someone mentioned that you need to go to 10 Ipswich games to qualify for home tickets which seemed odd, my brother in law usually sorts out tickets for the derby but he was in Spain .
Sitting on my tod with some depressed binners didn't appeal mate.
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I would've sorted you out with a ticket mate!<laugh> you could have had mine!
 
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