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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Actually I didn't say you were. I clearly said i was undecided so are you lumping us all in one boat or trying to asks suspicions around.. I didn't comment until after

I worte

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so....

"IBWT gets the nomination for wow post of the day....

that one is amazing.


anyway now i posted a vote table i hope we get focused.

I've no reason for any suspicions so far... I must say that with 7 people voted on so far thats getting nicely random. I hope we can find some means to get a tie with enough in it to maybe get some info later... however its fun and greez can be stubborn as tradition now requires until someone jumps off him."

then swarbs wrote his post and i did an analysis of 3 options inclduing you being innocent.... so your.. "mito in particular had me down as Mafia right away because of " gets my heckles right up. not a good way to convince me of your innocence.
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Sorry o worded that badly. All I meant was in terms of you 3 reacted to my post the most and re reding your comment fair enough, you didn't actually say you think I'm Mafia (although none of you did in this words)

What I means was it caused suspicion and put doubt in your 3 minds by the fact you replied to it.

No idea of that makes any sense or not <laugh>

All I see it doing is casting doubt on someone.

All I'd say is in theast 3 games the quiet ones in early rounds gt forgotten and they're often the Mafia. Sitting back waiting and watching. If I was Mafia again I'd def not be putting my name as a controversial person by making some risky comment like that!

In early rounds there are so many people you can easily hide away and get say with it (like apprentice early rounds) for example.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Day 1 So Far, as agreed to help out

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: left"]
[tr]
[td]Nominee[/td]
[td]Votes[/td]
[td]Vote(s) By[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gerrez[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]AfcFtw, BRB, valley[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Lucaaas[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]Mito[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]BRB[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]gerrez[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]IBWT[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]nozzer, billy[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]RHC[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]bodanki[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]sky[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]IBWT[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]afcftw[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]swarbs[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

not voted: RHC, Milk, Danilo, Lucaaas, Skylarker


This is the table as i can see it right now. if anyone thinks its out please do let us know. .. all mods can edit post if required.
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Can we include people with no votes? People often forget about them all together, especially the early rounds!
 
As a general rule in all mafia games, information is important so it you are not allowed to do things like post screenshots of PMs, post all or part of a PM in the "reply as quote" style, let people log into your account to see your PMs, use mod abilities to see PMs, share links to boards such as the freemason board, PM each other or communicate privately in real life, etc. etc. etc., things that should be obvious as cheating.

Beyond this is: :emoticon-0127-lipss
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
it depends.... I still say having 3/4 people at risk is the best way. If we get more up with gerrez whomever that may be it might help. then people can still switch late. I am with you though.. i'll change my vote to anyone else voting for sky.......... unless.... they claim to be also influenced by the mafia in which case i would want a 2 way tie between them and ibwt.
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Basically we have to protect Sky at all costs unless we find out anything else about the rules <ok>

Bisc you may well be innocent but in a way we might as well threaten to kill you too <laugh> If you're under threat from both town and mafia you might as well just ignore the threats from them and vote for who you want (if Sky is under threat as well as you).
 
The artist Billy Can can said:
Basically we have to protect Sky at all costs unless we find out anything else about the rules <ok>

Bisc you may well be innocent but in a way we might as well threaten to kill you too <laugh> If you're under threat from both town and mafia you might as well just ignore the threats from them and vote for who you want (if Sky is under threat as well as you).
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Absolutely. If sky is any where near danger then I will change my vote to save him (unless my vote changes nothing but cant see us letting it get to that stage surely?)

I said I'm happy to change and take one for the team id it means sky staying. He's one of most important players so happy to do that.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Day 1 So Far, as agreed to help out

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: left"]
[tr]
[td]Nominee[/td]
[td]Votes[/td]
[td]Vote(s) By[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Gerrez[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]AfcFtw, BRB, valley[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Lucaaas[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]Mito[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]BRB[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]gerrez[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]IBWT[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]nozzer, billy[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]RHC[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]bodanki[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]sky[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]IBWT[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]afcftw[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]swarbs[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

not voted: RHC, Milk, Danilo, Lucaaas, Skylarker


This is the table as i can see it right now. if anyone thinks its out please do let us know. .. all mods can edit post if required.
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I'd like to know why Bodanki voted for me. It's victimisation (again) and A ****ING CONSPIRACY. I'll keep my powder dry for now, before voting (probably for Bodanki) <whistle>
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
If I'm bluffing someone else could come forward and claim to be under he Mafia heavies influence... And it would be pretty obvious I was lying?

Will wait and see if that's the case
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Not true.

If you are Mafia and this is a Mafia bluff then the heavy will obviously not nominate someone, as if that person came forwards it would make you look guilty.

Tbh I did think of that scenario at first, then immediately realised it would not happen. So your post casts a bit more suspicion on you imo - if you know the Mafia aren't going to nominate anyone you would make that claim to try and convince people you are innocent.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Why am I going to die <yikes>

I checked and checked again and no where does it say I can't admit to being leaned on so don't think that would automatically kill me?

Also I'll happily change my vote and take one for the team of aly is close to being up for lynching in order to take one for the team
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It was discussed in the previous thread and I think its one of the things yet to be revealed <ok>
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
I asked if I could reveal id be leant on and got no answer and it says no where o can't so I wanted to make it quite clear as the plan obviously worked initially.

A few of you, billy Gerrez mito in particular had me down as Mafia right away because of it. Was only that swarbs pointed out the heavy role that you remembered I might have been told to vote that way.

Mafia is obviously smart enough to realise it would cast doubt on people's
Minds which is what is has done now :(
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I was actually taking the piss with my first comment because I thought it was an oversight on your part, it was only after your response that I really questioned it.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Absolutely. If sky is any where near danger then I will change my vote to save him (unless my vote changes nothing but cant see us letting it get to that stage surely?)

I said I'm happy to change and take one for the team id it means sky staying. He's one of most important players so happy to do that.
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In fairness I want an even spread of a few (probably 4) without Sky tied by end of the day. As we know from early games the 1 vote each strategy can be a good way to start the first round but it's no good now with the "lean" and "known detective" elements. Best bet surely (as Mito said) is to have a few tied on a highish vote (enough to stop mafia fixing it to Sky).

If you're mafia the most Sky can get is 3, if you're not then the most he can get is 3 as well (if you can change yours late on).
 
Red Hadron Collider said:
I'd like to know why Bodanki voted for me. It's victimisation (again) and A ****ING CONSPIRACY. I'll keep my powder dry for now, before voting (probably for Bodanki) <whistle>
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Erm...I voted for you because you said you were going to kill me......Thats pretty much all I have to go on at the moment.
Since I know I am innocent, I have accept that you are either a) Mafia, so want to kill me for being a townie or b) Are being a giant douche

Either way until I get more info.....my vote is for you. I dont knwo whether you are mafia or not at this point, it was just a starting point bud.

In terms of IBWT, If he is mafia then voting for Sky is suicide. Quite possible its a plot of his, but at the end of the day the heavy has made us doubt him one way or another so voting for him might just be playing right in to their hands.......Gah I forgot how frustrating this was when you know jack ****.....
 
Swarbs said:
Not true.

If you are Mafia and this is a Mafia bluff then the heavy will obviously not nominate someone, as if that person came forwards it would make you look guilty.

Tbh I did think of that scenario at first, then immediately realised it would not happen. So your post casts a bit more suspicion on you imo - if you know the Mafia aren't going to nominate anyone you would make that claim to try and convince people you are innocent.
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Good point <laugh>

Didn't think that if I was Mafia and bluffing that they obv wouldn't nominate someone else (unless Mafia team is really dumb)

In just trying to brain storm as many reasons as can think of, hard to think from their point of view though as I don't know what they're thinking.

My theory on that role is to put doubt in our mind. What better way than make someone vote for someone we know is obviously innocent?

Would any of you been suspicious of me if is have voted for anyone else? Probably not, so on that can it's worked perfectly for them, putting doubt about me (an innocent) into your minds.
 
Swarbs said:
Not true.

If you are Mafia and this is a Mafia bluff then the heavy will obviously not nominate someone, as if that person came forwards it would make you look guilty.

Tbh I did think of that scenario at first, then immediately realised it would not happen. So your post casts a bit more suspicion on you imo - if you know the Mafia aren't going to nominate anyone you would make that claim to try and convince people you are innocent.
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Good point <laugh>

Didn't think that if I was Mafia and bluffing that they obv wouldn't nominate someone else (unless Mafia team is really dumb)

In just trying to brain storm as many reasons as can think of, hard to think from their point of view though as I don't know what they're thinking.

My theory on that role is to put doubt in our mind. What better way than make someone vote for someone we know is obviously innocent?

Would any of you been suspicious of me if is have voted for anyone else? Probably not, so on that can it's worked perfectly for them, putting doubt about me (an innocent) into your minds.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Good point <laugh>

Didn't think that if I was Mafia and bluffing that they obv wouldn't nominate someone else (unless Mafia team is really dumb)

In just trying to brain storm as many reasons as can think of, hard to think from their point of view though as I don't know what they're thinking.

My theory on that role is to put doubt in our mind. What better way than make someone vote for someone we know is obviously innocent?

Would any of you been suspicious of me if is have voted for anyone else? Probably not, so on that can it's worked perfectly for them, putting doubt about me (an innocent) into your minds.
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
Good point <laugh>

Didn't think that if I was Mafia and bluffing that they obv wouldn't nominate someone else (unless Mafia team is really dumb)

In just trying to brain storm as many reasons as can think of, hard to think from their point of view though as I don't know what they're thinking.

My theory on that role is to put doubt in our mind. What better way than make someone vote for someone we know is obviously innocent?

Would any of you been suspicious of me if is have voted for anyone else? Probably not, so on that can it's worked perfectly for them, putting doubt about me (an innocent) into your minds.
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Don't Mafia guys always say things twice...? <whistle>
 
The artist Billy Can can said:
In fairness I want an even spread of a few (probably 4) without Sky tied by end of the day. As we know from early games the 1 vote each strategy can be a good way to start the first round but it's no good now with the "lean" and "known detective" elements. Best bet surely (as Mito said) is to have a few tied on a highish vote (enough to stop mafia fixing it to Sky).

If you're mafia the most Sky can get is 3, if you're not then the most he can get is 3 as well (if you can change yours late on).
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I can change late on but at a sacrifice to myself but I will take the risk of it means we save sky.

I can't see 3 other people voting for sky, it just means that they are definitely Mafia surely ?!

And if that happens, we all switch to one of them, kill them and then who ever else voted for sky!
 
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