Mafia 4

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Before BRB broke the tie- the people involved (other than voting for IBWT) with casting the third vote for the other tied were:
BRB for Gerrez. (can rule him out)
Valley for BRB
Nozzer for Valley


Valley is new- so don't know his voting habits. Nozzer does tend to vote to try and have multiple people kept in a tie- plus, I think his vote was long before closing.

So I don't think we can learn much from who cast the last vote for the other people up for the chop.

Aye, BRB's cock out kinda ruined things in that respect, even if it was funny. But at least we took out a Mafia, so it's not all bad.

Valley and Gerrez are still the ones I am most suspicious of if I am honest, cards on the table.

Valleys fake coercsion implication just seemed......weird.
 
As i'm at work tomorrow...when i come home acf gets the bullet from me....but i will probably have an whole hour to change my mind several times :)

I've asked Minxy to be my eyes and ears tomorrow in my absence....so no telling's which way my vote my end up <whistle>
 
Aye, BRB's cock out kinda ruined things in that respect, even if it was funny. But at least we took out a Mafia, so it's not all bad.

Valley and Gerrez are still the ones I am most suspicious of if I am honest, cards on the table.

Valleys fake coercsion implication just seemed......weird.

I would have to agree with that. I'm not certain of anything and new players can do things that people have played a couple of games would consider odd/suspicious... but so far I'd say: Valley looks most suspicious. Gerrez and AFC... maybe suspicious. Not just AFC's last second change- but that he has been quieter than normal.
 
As i'm at work tomorrow...when i come home acf gets the bullet from me....but i will probably have an whole hour to change my mind several times :)

I've asked Minxy to be my eyes and ears tomorrow in my absence....so no telling's which way my vote my end up <whistle>



I shall make all my posts in purple or pink then to appeal to the feminine pallet and make myself look innocent in her eyes.
 
I have a theory or two

One is that all of this was blind panic as 3 mafia were in the 4 way tie (could happen) and it was deliberate confusion just like the fake gerrez magic fight. Another cutsey move there. If the risk was to assassin and recruiter.... Well I doubt it as the 4th person was an option

Unless all 4 were mafia = tiny tiny odds

However I dunno maybe my other ideas are better

What I will do is wait til 10 am paper to hear if journo has anything for us too

I also am wondering if a mafia move comes at 10am

I don't know if it does.
 
I have a theory or two

One is that all of this was blind panic as 3 mafia were in the 4 way tie (could happen) and it was deliberate confusion just like the fake gerrez magic fight. Another cutsey move there. If the risk was to assassin and recruiter.... Well I doubt it as the 4th person was an option

Unless all 4 were mafia = tiny tiny odds

However I dunno maybe my other ideas are better

What I will do is wait til 10 am paper to hear if journo has anything for us too

I also am wondering if a mafia move comes at 10am

I don't know if it does.

I was thinking the same tbh.

If BRB IS mafia, and IBWT and for example Gerrez or Valley are also mafia and were up for the coin toss and were the recruiter or assassin, then sacrificing the least valuable member (IBWT) and making BRB (a more valuable member) look innocent, wouldnt be a bad move for them to make.

I am curious as to why there was no assassinations or conversions tonight tho? Maybe someone was inactive? In all games I have played, I am sure the Mafia have killed someone on Day 1.
 
Mummy:7283512 said:
Astro, now that the heavy is out... can I ask a question (don't think it will impact game play). If the Heavy HAD picked someone would they have been allowed to claim they were influenced by the heavy- or would the PM have said they couldn't?

Just wait until 10am, if someone was leaned on they will be able to tell us then

Mummy:7283629 said:
I will try and tell my brain to remember not to vote for u nice ppl tomorrow nite <ok>

Thank you.

Considering you have yourself on that list- I hope that means you're not voting for yourself tomorrow night? <laugh>

Don't believe anything he says. He promised me he wouldn't vote for me after I had to leave and as expected, he did!

Mummy:7283669 said:
We haven't learnt much from it though, unfortunately.

No... but we killed one of the bastards. We have strong suspicion BRB is innocent (for 24 hrs at least).

Small suspicions on AFC and Bod for their last minute changes... but only small suspicions they can (and have) given reasonable explanations.
Valley's mid game-day strange move looked for a while like he was trying to insinuate he was being coerced (which we know he wasn't)- could that have been an intra-team mix up?
When we had a nice settled tie earlier (of which IBWT and Gerrez were both involved) - Gerrez broke the equilibrium by switching to Valley. If Gerrez was on same team as IBWT- that could have been a ploy to try and take focus off IBWT.

No ploy other than saving myself. Knew BRB would vote for me and I had to leave at 7.20pm (will be the same every week day night)
 
I was thinking the same tbh.

If BRB IS mafia, and IBWT and for example Gerrez or Valley are also mafia and were up for the coin toss and were the recruiter or assassin, then sacrificing the least valuable member (IBWT) and making BRB (a more valuable member) look innocent, wouldnt be a bad move for them to make.

I am curious as to why there was no assassinations or conversions tonight tho? Maybe someone was inactive? In all games I have played, I am sure the Mafia have killed someone on Day 1.

Jeez all these conspiracy theories....its like a farmer sowing seeds lol
 
What confuses me is if heavy can influence now and turn a vote.... Or not yet.... Then perhaps what we think us an important role due to ibwt pretending to use it is really not that important to them

Yet they neither converted nor killed unless results come tomorrow.... So I dunno speculating on what they can and cannot do is not much good


Maybe one of the three others were also mafia, if it were two more I'd be astounded.... I say all 3 should answer a few questions tomorrow

But then there are a couple more associated with ibwt too


In game 2 I think mafia did neither. Ibwt was don as far as I remember of course....
 
Mummy:7283719 said:
Aye, BRB's **** out kinda ruined things in that respect, even if it was funny. But at least we took out a Mafia, so it's not all bad.

Valley and Gerrez are still the ones I am most suspicious of if I am honest, cards on the table.

Valleys fake coercsion implication just seemed......weird.

I would have to agree with that. I'm not certain of anything and new players can do things that people have played a couple of games would consider odd/suspicious... but so far I'd say: Valley looks most suspicious. Gerrez and AFC... maybe suspicious. Not just AFC's last second change- but that he has been quieter than normal.

You named three posters earlier that all had late votes that seemed suspicious (your words). All three were voting for me at one point.


Bodanki':7283751 said:
I have a theory or two

One is that all of this was blind panic as 3 mafia were in the 4 way tie (could happen) and it was deliberate confusion just like the fake gerrez magic fight. Another cutsey move there. If the risk was to assassin and recruiter.... Well I doubt it as the 4th person was an option

Unless all 4 were mafia = tiny tiny odds

However I dunno maybe my other ideas are better

What I will do is wait til 10 am paper to hear if journo has anything for us too

I also am wondering if a mafia move comes at 10am

I don't know if it does.

I was thinking the same tbh.

If BRB IS mafia, and IBWT and for example Gerrez or Valley are also mafia and were up for the coin toss and were the recruiter or assassin, then sacrificing the least valuable member (IBWT) and making BRB (a more valuable member) look innocent, wouldnt be a bad move for them to make.

I am curious as to why there was no assassinations or conversions tonight tho? Maybe someone was inactive? In all games I have played, I am sure the Mafia have killed someone on Day 1.

Nice theory but Biscan was more valuable than the hacker


brb:7283771 said:
Gerrez stop yer bitching <hug>

Not bitching, it was expected and you'll do exactly the same tomorrow #predictable


Minxy:7283781 said:
#allaboutlazyfatbaldbatard :D

<smooch>
 
Gerrez....something i aint is predictable hahaha....unless your predicting i'm a loose cannon :)
 
Ok I'm off to bed. A quick reminder that during the day this week I will struggle to get on and post much. I'm not being quieter this game out of choice but rather necessity! I will however try to make up for it by posting plenty during the evenings :p

I'll have a go at forming some theories tomorrow and read through what others think. Hopefully we can come up with a better tactic today than brb randomly lynching someone last minute!
 
anyways i'm off to bed now....so leave you ppl in peace until 7pm tomorrow
 
Sounds like the last half hour was fun! I should have stuck with my vote for IBWT...

To get a vote in early and see how things go, I'll repeat my vote for Valley.
 
You named three posters earlier that all had late votes that seemed suspicious (your words). All three were voting for me at one point.




Nice theory but Biscan was more valuable than the hacker




Not bitching, it was expected and you'll do exactly the same tomorrow #predictable




<smooch>

But we don't know if the hacker was up for the coin toss or not.
If Valley and/or Gerrez were the assassin or recruiter, then that would make the heavy more expendable, surely.
 
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