Mackail Smith

He's probably looked at the wages offered and then looked at the role that he'll have to play for the club. I'm guessing that the wages offered by brighton are similar to the ones the Leicester offered him; well they can't be significantly different otherwise he'd have chosen Leicester hands down. Then he would've looked at the length of the deal and the role he'll have to play at the club. Lets be fair, a four year deal to be the teams shining light isn't really a bad deal is it? At Leicester he'd have been offered a 3 year deal and although the team maybe challenging for promotion and he'd get a few starts at the beginning of the season, he'd soon be replaced by the ever spending Erikson. Especially if they got promoted.

A good deal for CMS and to a certain degree, for Brighton too. He's a good player but £2.5 mill on a striker that's largely unproven at this level is a bit of a risk. Especially when you look at the strength of the championship this year.

It's going to be interesting to see how well both he and Brighton do this season.
 
originallambrettaman said:
£9m seems a bit low for 19,000 season tickets and a load of corporate packages.
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That's profit though. It's not all revenue, you know! Though according to Mark McGuire, Duffen didn't!

I was rushing to post earlier because I was on my out. What he actually said was: "Our actual sales are something like 15,500 season tickets sold and another 2,600 corporate season tickets sold, meaning that alone has generated over £9 million for the club."
 
WellGus has said he wants to build a team around him..

Basically, he wants to build a League one/championship yo-yo club then?!

I am not at all sad that he chose Brighton. At means we can step up our interest in Maynard, who is much more proven and much anger that Craig.


While I'm here, what do you guys think to us signing SSL?

I can't believe we sold Hobbs and signed an older version for double the price!

Plus he has an attitude problem!
 
Andy King's Crown Jewels said:
WellGus has said he wants to build a team around him..

Basically, he wants to build a League one/championship yo-yo club then?!

I am not at all sad that he chose Brighton. At means we can step up our interest in Maynard, who is much more proven and much anger that Craig.


While I'm here, what do you guys think to us signing SSL?

I can't believe we sold Hobbs and signed an older version for double the price!

Plus he has an attitude problem!
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Good move, I think ssl was at fault for both goals we scored against Preston at Deepdale. At least we know you now have an Achilles heel!!!
 
Well I'm not entirely convinced, but then again, I havnt seen too much of him.

If we somehow get Matt Mills (Svens #1 target) then I think he'll be backup to Mills and Bamba.

Only time will tell but I can't wait another month for. The new season!
 
originallambrettaman said:
£9m seems a bit low for 19,000 season tickets and a load of corporate packages.
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It sounds like a lot to me, are you forgetting to account for kids tickets?

Our entire turnover in the promotion season was only about £10M and that was with over 12,000 season tickets. The remaining 5,000 or so pay on the day fans we had would easily out contribute an extra 7,000 season ticket holders. We both have corporate facilities but for our £10M you can throw in all the merchandising, any player sales (£600k for Delaney for starters), and prize money (don't think there was much that year off the top of my head).

If I'm right as well I think it should be the 21,000 season tickets and however many memberships we sold for the first PL season that were in our accounts. (The tickets would be on the balance sheet as a liability but the actual sale was generated that season so it should be in the turnover for that season (I think) which would make £9M from just STs and corporate an even better figure.
 
DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) said:
clear intent from a promoted side, people still think wel be anywhere near the top 6?
that isnt a dig at our club either, just saying..
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Maywell keep Brighton out of the relegation zone now then. Shows what ambition C M S has by rejecting the likes of Norwich QPR Leicester West Ham. Dont think he is any better than what Hull City have now. Deffo not worth 3 million quid.
 
Horsham_Tiger said:
I was amazed to start with but then if you were offered the chance to play with Sven and live around Leicester or join Poyet and live near Brighton which would you choose? Brighton also play good passing football as CMS will ahve seen first hand last year.

Brighton have sold 19000 season tickets. They have a stadium as good (if not better) than ours. Until we shift the highest earners we won't be able to compete with them (their owner also has a fair amount of cash too).

Brighton could do a Norwich, I have a suspicion that they'll make the play-offs (but I think we will too).

It's all going on down here in the land of the Seagulls........

Who started the rumour off about McShane? I mentioned it to a seagull down here and he said "Yes please". McShane was a bit of a legend during a loan spell down here (even scoring the winner against Palace)
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I posted it. Heard it from a very good source. As for Brighton being the place to be ? No chance. They will be mid table at best. But agree that Brighton is much better than Leicester to live and play.
 
Ricardo said:
It sounds like a lot to me, are you forgetting to account for kids tickets?

Our entire turnover in the promotion season was only about £10M and that was with over 12,000 season tickets. The remaining 5,000 or so pay on the day fans we had would easily out contribute an extra 7,000 season ticket holders. We both have corporate facilities but for our £10M you can throw in all the merchandising, any player sales (£600k for Delaney for starters), and prize money (don't think there was much that year off the top of my head).

If I'm right as well I think it should be the 21,000 season tickets and however many memberships we sold for the first PL season that were in our accounts. (The tickets would be on the balance sheet as a liability but the actual sale was generated that season so it should be in the turnover for that season (I think) which would make £9M from just STs and corporate an even better figure.
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Our turnover in the promotion season was £11,252,375.00, on which we made a massive loss, as our wage bill alone had shot up to over £13.5m, before any of the rest of the clubs costs were factored in. This was based on roughly 12,000 season tickets and 5,800 home/away matchday attendees(though we don't get the full revenue for our seats due to the SMC funding arrangements and I assume that Brighton will get all theirs).

I was working on the basis that Brighton is an affluent area and that they would have put 30-50 boxes in the new stadium and would have several thousand Premier Club(or equivalent) members, who'd be paying over £1k each for their season tickets. Just those corporate tickets could come to £3-4m if they sold them all, £9m for 19,000 season tickets is an average of £473 each, with a lot of corporates I'd expect it to be higher, even factoring in the kids prices.

Anyway, what are they doing with kids, I thought they were all gay? :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
The FRENCH TICKLER said:
Maywell keep Brighton out of the relegation zone now then. Shows what ambition C M S has by rejecting the likes of Norwich QPR Leicester West Ham. Dont think he is any better than what Hull City have now. Deffo not worth 3 million quid.
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When did Norwich/QPR ever offer him a contract? He signed for Brighton the day their offers where accepted.... For me its a great move, its someone who has actually signed for a club for something other than money!

Andy King's Crown Jewels said:
WellGus has said he wants to build a team around him..

Basically, he wants to build a League one/championship yo-yo club then?!

I am not at all sad that he chose Brighton. At means we can step up our interest in Maynard, who is much more proven and much anger that Craig.


While I'm here, what do you guys think to us signing SSL?

I can't believe we sold Hobbs and signed an older version for double the price!

Plus he has an attitude problem!
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I actually rate him, i hoped we would be in for him, i think he will do a good job for you. But i would rather Hobbs, but i would say that!
 
City1904 said:
When did Norwich/QPR ever offer him a contract? He signed for Brighton the day their offers where accepted.... For me its a great move, its someone who has actually signed for a club for something other than money!
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Not necessarily, if you're paying £2.5M for a player his age it's probably not going to matter what division you're in because the wages be something relative to the fee and there'll be something of a standard in the industry.
 
originallambrettaman said:
Our turnover in the promotion season was £11,252,375.00, on which we made a massive loss, as our wage bill alone had shot up to over £13.5m, before any of the rest of the clubs costs were factored in. This was based on roughly 12,000 season tickets and 5,800 home/away matchday attendees(though we don't get the full revenue for our seats due to the SMC funding arrangements and I assume that Brighton will get all theirs).
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Oh come on, you know the expenses are irrelevent because we're only talking about the turnover the club generated. And wouldn't our turnover include the full figure for the sale price of tickets, with card transaction costs and the SMC's share being taken as a cost of sale?

16,000 season tickets coming in at £5.5M (19,000 knocking off 500 for 50 boxes and 2,500 for Premier club equivalent at a sales value of £3.5M total) is still over £340 a ticket though. For a L1 club selling tickets as far in advance as they were even in a rich area it does seem high that the average over the whole ground including kids tickets would be about the same as an adult ticket in the East Stand costs us (£350 for renewal).

But yeah, maybe we should adjust our expectations towards the adult prices because of their lack of offspring.
 
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