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The winner will be?

  • Luke Campbell

  • Mike Ross

  • Rowan Halstead

  • Anne Handley

  • Kerry Harrison

  • Margaret Pinder


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Because most UK politicians (of both remain and leave) only had a superficial knowledge of the commercial, economic and political intricacies of the EU relationship. Brexit has shown that many UK politicians of all parties weren't qualified for their jobs and hadn't taken the time to learn what they should have known. Also that they had been happy for the media blaming the EU for decades, because it removed their responsibility.

If they aren't qualified, we the general public sure weren't to be given a referendum in the first place.
 
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We don’t have a Mayor today so there’s nothing to change

I know it's not the same thing but I loved the Lord Mayor's parade as a kid.

I'm sure one of the main reasons that lead to me joining the army was the awe the tubby TA lads inspired in me marching through the city centre.

That's not even a joke it's 100% true <laugh>
 
Starmer has promised to "Stop the boats" yet they keep coming in ever greater numbers

Have they kept coming in ever greater numbers? The figures don't seem to support that.

Obviously Farage says so, because it's in his interest to constantly keep stoking the fire on that, but I suspect most people repeating it have no idea of the actual numbers.
 
It's important that the ruling political party is held to account; by opposition parties on a daily basis, a robust media and by the electorate when they have an opportunity to do so. (just look across The Pond to see what happens when that starts to be dismantled).

Protest votes are a democratic right of any individual, as is a tactical vote to counteract a protest vote so the outcome of the Mayoral vote will be interesting.

If people vote for Luke Campbell in order to make a point about the Labour administration's hapless first year in power then that's one thing - but if they expect a decrease in small boat crossings as a result, they're going to be sadly disappointed.


My main gripe here though is that I think Mayors per se, Lord, Regional, Local or ones in pantomimes are a needless and ineffectual layer of bureaucracy, which cost and waste a shed load of money and achieve **** all.

Isn’t Luke Campbell going to get out there on an inflatable kayak and knock all the small boats out?
 
Which of the non-Reform candidates do people think will be most popular?

As I said, I've gone for Mike Ross because on balance I think he's the most likely to compete with Reform. But Margaret Pinder knocked on my door a few weeks ago and was very keen to convince that she actually had the best chance. The poll she showed me was very much the outlier when I looked at others, but that was clearly her angle. Lib Dems had a totally different approach, they've gone for their usual "Tories can't win here" line but added Reform to it, which obviously isn't true.

The annoying thing is, I'd be happy with either of them, and I think it'd have been in our best interests for one of them to step aside for the other really. I suppose it's never going to happen in our party political system, but it just means they'll probably both get nowhere and Reform will win.
 
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Have they kept coming in ever greater numbers? The figures don't seem to support that.

Obviously Farage says so, because it's in his interest to constantly keep stoking the fire on that, but I suspect most people repeating it have no idea of the actual numbers.
They are coming in numbers because it’s probably the mildest calmest early year to Spring for a long time - the numbers increase , had it been stormy and windy etc the numbers would be less . The main problem appears to be where they go when here , who they actually are how much more we pay to support them and for how long . Do they behave ? And once ‘established’ does that give free rein to bring extended family ?
 
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If they aren't qualified, we the general public sure weren't to be given a referendum in the first place.

I don't know if the referendum was the issue. The fact that several senior politicians, who were spouting off opinions for and against, didn't know the volume/value of trade across the English channel, the nature of the political relationship between NI, Ireland and the EU or have the ability to negotiate with EU and international (Russian) politicians in public was an embarrassment to their positions.
 
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Have they kept coming in ever greater numbers? The figures don't seem to support that.

Obviously Farage says so, because it's in his interest to constantly keep stoking the fire on that, but I suspect most people repeating it have no idea of the actual numbers.
The government publish transparency data on small boat arrivals every day on GOV.UK.
 
Too late not to venture into it. It can be moved or deleted but you can't expect one side to be allowed their say and the other not to respond.

In a way I agree about parties. I think the concept of parties is harmful to politics and makes things a bit of a circus a lot of the time. This mayoral election and the campaigning around it is an example of that. I'm voting for Mike Ross cos tactically it's probably the best chance of avoiding the worst possible candidate, but the leaflet his team put through my door the other day was a stream of absolute nonsense, deliberate misinformation even. But with the system we have and the candidates available, he's who I feel I need to vote for.

I don't think it's true Labour did go back on loads of promises though. I think that's just an easy line to chuck out at any party, and with a lot of the media hammering it day after day it spreads easily even if most people repeating it can't even explain what they mean.

The "all politicians are bad line" is always used to tar good politicians with the same brush as bad ones. We've had some absolutely rotten ones in recent years and they clearly all aren't all the same as that.
Good post .
It took 30 seconds for the media to launch it's vitriol after last year's election .
You don't turn an oil tanker around in 2 minutes
Please feel free to vote Farage if you will but consider the consequences if they ever get in just looking at their policies on the NHS .
Americans are completely enslaved to their companies private health provision which effectively takes away the ability for Companies to provide any kind of holiday entitlement .
Be very careful what you wish for .
 
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10000 crossed the channel since January 1st

29,000 in 2023
46,000 in 2022.
Can't find the final 2024 figure but it was up on 2023 in the first half of the year.

It's not ever greater numbers, but certain people want you to believe it is, and it's blown up as headline news everywhere as if it's the most important issue of our time. That and what the prime minister defines a woman as.
 
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29,000 in 2023
46,000 in 2022.
Can't find the final 2024 figure but it was up on 2023 in the first half of the year.

It's not ever greater numbers, but certain people want you to believe it is, and it's blown up as headline news everywhere as if it's the most important issue of our time. That and what the prime minister defines a woman as.
You aren’t
Can you concede that others are? And they don’t want any more ?
The infrastructure of this country is a ****ing mess
 
Good post .
It took 30 seconds for the media to launch it's vitriol after last year's election .
You don't turn an oil tanker around in 2 minutes
Please feel free to vote Farage if you will but consider the consequences if they ever get in just looking at their policies on the NHS .
Americans are completely enslaved to their companies private health provision which effectively takes away the ability for Companies to provide any kind of holiday entitlement .
Be very careful what you wish for .
I'm seeing this point of view a lot this week with The Hull Story leading the call for tactical voting to stop Reform. This only underlines the closeness of the centre right/centre left parties in power, the legacy parties who never bring change, it is our democratic right to protest vote. Just wish Michelle Dewberry had stood instead of Luke, she would have made a damn good Mayor.
 
I'm seeing this point of view a lot this week with The Hull Story leading the call for tactical voting to stop Reform. This only underlines the closeness of the centre right/centre left parties in power, the legacy parties who never bring change, it is our democratic right to protest vote. Just wish Michelle Dewberry had stood instead of Luke, she would have made a damn good Mayor.
The Hull Story ( Post) leading the call for tactical voting to stop Reform was written by a Liberal. I've read similar stuff from him in the past when he was calling for tactical voting to stop Labour in Hull.
Agree about Michelle.
 
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