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London's most successful club add yet another trophy

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by PINKIE, May 30, 2015.

  1. CFC: Champs £launderx17

    CFC: Champs £launderx17 Captain Ahab

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    He did it at Unaio, Inter and Porto on smaller budget than Arsenal
     
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    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    At those clubs he didn't have to sell his best players every season and was in a prime position to be successful in uncompetitive leagues... He also didn't have to sustain it over a ten year period... Jose has never been in a position anything like the role at Arsenal required during those years.
     
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  3. BITKOSB

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    I think .............. I don't think ................ thems the facts eh? :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:

    Go back to bed and sleep it off.
     
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    CFC: Champs £launderx17 Captain Ahab

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    Your lack of success is not just to do with the amount other clubs spent.

    It is mainly that Wenger could not instil the winning mentality into his players anymore possibly blaming sugar daddies etc

    I did not see Simeone making excuses at Madrid or Jose complaining about Inter having a smaller budget than AC etc
     
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  5. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    This is a football forum for discussion and sharing opinions, what are you going on about? <laugh>

    P.s. I feel dirty wasting my time responding to you lol
     
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    CFC: Champs £launderx17 Captain Ahab

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    Of course you are right about sustaining but check Jose's wage bill at Inter in 2010 and Porto in 2004 compared to Arsenal's.

    He also won European cups too on that budget. He sold his best player Ibra to rebuild his squad in 09 before doing the treble
     
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    Arsenal consider top 4 success these days. Last year we finished 3rd and we felt shame. This year United were 4th and they are pi55ed off with that. Different mentality for the big boys.
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Well it was 9 seasons, but for very tangible reasons as outlined. Also as mentioned, there's no way Jose would have managed to keep Arsenal in the top 4 as Wenger did without the backing of a rich benefactor. He just wouldn't have been able handle it, because without the praise he is like a little kid on the brink of a tantrum and the job at Arsenal over the last decade was a thankless task.

    However, even during those lean seasons, it pales into insignificance when you consider how long Chelsea went without winning a trophy before they got pumped by Roman.
     
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    I think you have wasted your time. I think your opinion is thinking that your thinking. I think you should go back to bed......... think about it eh? :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  10. Ozil >>> Judesc

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    Arsenal win the right way by playing good football unlike Chelsea who just park the bus and hope for Hazard to bail them out. I feel sorry for the guy tbh. A real exciting player stifled by Mourinho's boring football.
     
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  11. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    You'd like that to be the case. But the realty is that Jose wouldn't have been able to cut it at Arsenal without the backing of a sugar daddy.
     
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    There is no point comparing them to Arsenal, you need to compare them to the other teams in there leagues at that time. At Porto he was spending the most at inter he was spending the most or second most, at arsenal wenger was spending the fourth/fifth most. That's a huge difference in terms of top competition. Imagine while he was at inter if AC and Juve spent a billion each on players, would he still have won the treble?

    His European record is incredible, his teams were definitely not the best in the competitions in the years he won the big prize, hats off to him for his ability to churn out boring wins against better teams, no-one does it quite like Mourinho. He is a very talented manager, one of the best in the world. I just don't think his set of skills were the set we needed during the trophy less years. In particular he would have struggled with not being the centre of attention, the club had to be put before the manager and I just don't think that is his style.
     
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  13. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I think you should do more thinking and less typing.
     
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    3 years mate but then your not that good with your statements are you? Your previous on these threads is a joke.

    9 seasons ' pales into insignificance' in comparison to 3 in Piskie world. :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:

    Gooners keep on giving.
     
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  15. CFC: Champs £launderx17

    CFC: Champs £launderx17 Captain Ahab

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    Fair enough.

    But would you really have found three managers, a bit of chop and change and say a league title and more cups so painful.

    My boss has changed and a few times but we are still successful.

    Change can be good even when repaying stadium debt: see Bayern who got their commercial revenue up when Arsenal stood still.

    If you had kept up commercially with other clubs even with Chelsea say, you would have had more money to spend during the trophy less decade
     
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  16. PINKIE

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    1971 to 1997 is 26 barren years <ok>
     
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  17. BITKOSB

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    Your exceptional at thinking mate. You just make little sense.

    Did you not fancy your F A Cup parade? Or are you just thinking about it?

    'I've got a thai curry, with battered lemon chicken on the side, a double decker multipack and a bottle of baileys to enjoy throughout the coverage today...'

    I think your just a telly clapper. :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  18. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I get the point your making, I just think the stability and consistency has been really important to the club and keeping Wenger at the helm has allowed things to feel stable even while losing top players. A year or two out of the CL would have set us back a lot and no club bar Arsenal has stayed in the top four. If even one of the chop and change manager appointments failed like at Liverpool or utd, it could have had much deeper effects than a bad season. So all in all I think it was the right choice to stick with wenger.
     
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    You did say pre Roman? Would you like a hand to move those goalposts?
     
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    So many ******ed things in this post I don't even know where to start <laugh>
     
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