Liam Manning
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Liam Manning explains reasons behind Norwich City switch after Bristol City confirm boss' exit
Liam Manning has left Bristol City to join the Robins' Championship rivals Norwich City as their new head coach
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport...liam-manning-explains-reasons-behind-10236290
'When I spoke to Ben [Knapper] and the owners about the opportunity here, I was really impressed by their vision and strategy for moving the club forward. I felt a clear alignment in how they want to play and develop players – that is something I was really excited to be a part of.'
Liam Manning has left Bristol City to join the Robins' Championship rivals Norwich City as their new head coach
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport...liam-manning-explains-reasons-behind-10236290
'When I spoke to Ben [Knapper] and the owners about the opportunity here, I was really impressed by their vision and strategy for moving the club forward. I felt a clear alignment in how they want to play and develop players – that is something I was really excited to be a part of.'
Ignore Red Robin, he changes his view on the club, ownership, players, managers more than I change the tv channel….
Liam is obviously getting good vibes about the commitment at Carrow Road and given that we are less than useless when it comes down to long term promises. It also seems very clear that Tinnion still will have a lot of say in bringing in new players and that scares the pants off me because I still believe he was the major part of last summer's debacle with Mayulu and Armstrong arriving to original fanfare followed quickly by laughs of derision. Unless we go through a major change of opinion and let the new manager do his picking we will suffer the consequences of not being considered as a destination of choice for either players or managers.
partly true the covid pandemic exasperated the amount as fee's for players fell through the bottom of the barrel and clubs didnt have the money to splash out
Got to be honest, liked the guy, I don't blame him, now I just want to move on, it's all got very boring, typical Jonboy & BT...
havent you just made the posters point??? covid pandemic added to the sketch of a massive loss in the post turning it into a ****ing hell record loss because city couldnt sell players????
i have opinions just like you-we may not always agree but after giving them 20+ years as a st holder and supporting them since a nipper i think i am justified in my view's
I'm sure he's going as well but I think Hogg could have been a good replacement for Liam, whom by the way wish him and his family the best of luck..i think he was a decent coach for us..
post covid ..... covid made the situation worse no income or very much reduced, they had a covering plan pre covid to "control" the FFP BY SELLING a player or 2. This would have been at a fee greater after covid when no clubs had been affected by the interjection of covid reducing their incomes.
the EFL treated each case on its merits [ city were not the only ones who fell foul ] we should have had points deducted etc but because of the "business plan" being subjected to covid influence leeway was given. Had the "business plan" been different, then likely a different outcome!
and my point is that had there been no covid it may not have led to a breech! covid for football lasted over 2 seasons!
Yes. Bristol City had to sell players or breech FFP over a three season period. The club had to inevitably restructure its spending prior to covid.
Covid did not alter the inevitable it added more financial loss, loss for FFP that was taken into account via estimated lost revenue for ticket prices and transfers taken as averages then used as add backs versus losses.
Covid did not alter the inevitable it added more financial loss .... it WAS NOT INEVITABLE because there were unknowns, before covid there was not really a panic to align FFP loss of income over the period 2020 & 2020/21 was the main factor. 2019/ 2020 & 2020/2021 & 2021/2022 without covid could have been completely different outcome.. a couple players may have been sold and seasons may have been low level losses / a good run of results could have seen more income via gate and peripherals ........... so to say it was inevitable was wrong. It is more of "in hindsight had covid not happened / because covid happened" we wouldnt have been in breach of FFP.
If you care to check basic averages and continue as previous seasons and seasons from 22/23 & 23/24 & 24/25 you will find FFP COULD HAVE BEEN A CLOSE THING as SL would have been able to intervene to absorb any small overspend. He didnt / couldnt because once Covid started the chips were down and had to allow it play out .................
No. Bristol City were spending beyond their means. Bristol City could not cover its wage bill that had grown from 2016 to 2019 by 13/14 million pounds. The known was City were paying £107 in wages for every £100 of income. The known was that this would inevitably create further significant losses. Losses that would have to be addressed.
your comment is based on the after the fact "known" of a 7% overspend on a bill of some £30m - £35 players etc wages that equates to around £2.5m The income basis is gate money/ sales/ catering/ franchises /TV / etc. Player sales are a bonus to this "regular income"
the statement "it was inevitable that before covid the chips were down to have the £xx loss above FFP " WAS NOT something anyone could foretell. any one or 2 players sold for a couple million .. or one for £5million would take care of your argument for spending 7% over budget...
the reality is that the bills still had to be paid, losses of around £20m + on catering/franchises/ TV would easily build up a loss. THEN FACTOR IN GATE MONIES! .................
OTHER THAN parachute dependent clubs City is currently one of the top 2 or 3 money generating clubs in the division... I think the additional income above football gates and football kit sales etc etc IS AROUND £25m
THE £107 per £100 is not including player sales as this is an unknown factor .. a good return or a profit on a sale is healthy business ... when it happens or needs to happen
my other comment was that nothing whilst covid was interferring could be done to appease a situation as it didnt have an end by date ... it "ended" when it did had it lasted just 3 month's then there would have been no concerns over budgets or accounts!
