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Not sure if people have been following this but looking for some sensible debate on it.

Seems mad how a grown man can complete in the NCAA Championship with Olympic woman Atheles and win.

As a father of a daughter and a physiological lecturer as history, leaves a sour taste.
 
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Prehab26 said:
Not sure if people have been following this but looking for some sensible debate on it.

Seems mad how a grown man can complete in the NCAA Championship with Olympic woman Atheles and win.

As a father of a daughter and a physiological lecturer as history, leaves a sour taste.
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I am no expert on physiology. I have to say though it does seem odd that in a sport so clearly reliant on physical attributes like strength and stamina it feels difficult to see this as an entirely level playing field. I believe the governing body required a variety of checks and balances to try to negate the benefits attributed to male physiology, but I dont know what they are. At a very superficial level of thought, which is all I can offer with my lack of expertise, it doesnt seem fair.

I would say there are other sports where women have no physical barriers to overcome and they appear, if encouraged to, can compete equally. The darts in recent years shows what is possible, and how fantastic a spectacle it can be. Swimming feels a very different context though.
 
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FellTop said:
I am no expert on physiology. I have to say though it does seem odd that in a sport so clearly reliant on physical attributes like strength and stamina it feels difficult to see this as an entirely level playing field. I believe the governing body required a variety of checks and balances to try to negate the benefits attributed to male physiology, but I dont know what they are. At a very superficial level of thought, which is all I can offer with my lack of expertise, it doesnt seem fair.

I would say there are other sports where women have no physical barriers to overcome and they appear, if encouraged to, can compete equally. The darts in recent years shows what is possible, and how fantastic a spectacle it can be. Swimming feels a very different context though.
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You are spot on

I wanted to raise this here as it's good to have the space to talk about it. Lots of taboo.
 
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I'm all for supporting the transgender community and their rights to compete.

It's the combat sports that I worry about. There's women having their faces punched in and getting beat up quite badly from women who have transitioned from being male. I hope it isn't going to take for somebody to get seriously hurt, or worse, until the governing bodies step in and review it.

I don't see why we can't have an extra category for sports, now. Male, Women, Trans.
 
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Prehab26 said:
Not sure if people have been following this but looking for some sensible debate on it.

Seems mad how a grown man can complete in the NCAA Championship with Olympic woman Atheles and win.

As a father of a daughter and a physiological lecturer as history, leaves a sour taste.
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Totally wrong, there has never been a sport that a woman can beat a man at especially at a professional level, any sport, even Fatima whitbread arguably the butchest woman in history could not throw a shot put further than a man
 
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The Arnhem Bridge said:
I'm all for supporting the transgender community and their rights to compete.

It's the combat sports that I worry about. There's women having their faces punched in and getting beat up quite badly from women who have transitioned from being male. I hope it isn't going to take for somebody to get seriously hurt, or worse, until the governing bodies step in and review it.

I don't see why we can't have an extra category for sports, now. Male, Women, Trans.
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Sorry don’t get it, when the midwife looks between a child’s legs he or she says it’s a girl or boy, if the odd folk want a transgender games let them crack on but a person with an Adam’s apple born as a having a cock and balls could potentially drop kick a girl on the head it gone too far
 
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C19RK73 said:
Sorry don’t get it, when the midwife looks between a child’s legs he or she says it’s a girl or boy, if the odd folk want a transgender games let them crack on but a person with an Adam’s apple born as a having a cock and balls could potentially drop kick a girl on the head it gone too far
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That's just ignorant as ****.
 
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The horse won with a female jockey for the first time ever, there is no weight, height or build difference, probably more petite, I would agree they are both athletes though male and female but certainly more a level playing field, what about changing the French rugby team with women?
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Being a jockey is a skill. Blackmore is the most skilled jockey, at the moment. Very few male jockeys could achieve what she has on certain horses.
 
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How’s that? So what are you having then? Dunno then any hasn’t been given a choice yet? Is that your remit?
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You called them 'odd folk'

That is ignorant.
 
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It's a difficult subject to discuss publicly as there are certain types of people that will jump on anything deemed remotely a exist / genderist (is that even a word).

My basic thoughts (possibly ignorance) is someone born a man and going through puberty etc as man that then becomes a woman, is bound to have muscle mass, bone structure etc of a grown man.

Would a woman who trans to a man have the same impact in the same sport? The answer I suspect is no.

Therefore in my daft logic if success can't be repeated both ways then maybe the governing bodies need to look at alternatives
 
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Being a jockey is a skill. Blackmore is the most skilled jockey, at the moment. Very few male jockeys could achieve what she has on certain horses.
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I didn’t deny it, what I said was it is in no way a direct physical sporting competition between a male and female as the title
Of this thread
 
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