Match Day Thread LFC v Bournemouth

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Will we win?

  • Obviously

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • It'll be fine

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • No comment

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • We'll ****ing smash'em

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Total voters
    9
Didn't watch, moving my son, but saw "red card" replay.

I'm not sure that was even a yellow card, let alone a red. Salah is a terrible penalty kick taker.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
do people not understand that he wants everyone to sing for the team not him.

its actually quite interesting that people really don't get klopp after all this time.

sing for the club
sing for the players
sing for the team

don't sing for one man who doesn't want to be seen above the team or separate to the team.
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He was solid; make a good impact and then just went about his job without too much attention (that is a good thing for a DM), can't ask for much more after just two days.
 
MlLK said:
Didn't watch, moving my son, but saw "red card" replay.

I'm not sure that was even a yellow card, let alone a red. Salah is a terrible penalty kick taker.
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Mac Allister is a superb pen taker. About the tackle, all I can say is that as soon as he showed a red I knew it wouldn't be overturned because it looked bad. That is my fear about the appeal as well - they'll say that if VAR thought there was no clear or obvious error, why should they? In comparison to that tackle on Konate at Chelsea, and the Mings one for Villa against Gakpo, it is comical to say a high foot per see is a red card offence. But without wishing to do the whole victimhood thing, we're not City or United - the FA don't like us, and **** knows, we've made it abundantly clear we don't like them.

It won't get overturned. :(
 
Evil Roy Slade said:
Mac Allister is a superb pen taker. About the tackle, all I can say is that as soon as he showed a red I knew it wouldn't be overturned because it looked bad. That is my fear about the appeal as well - they'll say that if VAR thought there was no clear or obvious error, why should they? In comparison to that tackle on Konate at Chelsea, and the Mings one for Villa against Gakpo, it is comical to say a high foot per see is a red card offence. But without wishing to do the whole victimhood thing, we're not City or United - the FA don't like us, and **** knows, we've made it abundantly clear we don't like them.

It won't get overturned. :(
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well IMO the ref looked at the player rolling about more than anything and went red. he rolled 3 or 4 times and was bawling his eyes out them popped straight up.

Same goes for that foul on gakpo. that was absolute assault that day but he didn't stay down and scream.

The VAr then didn't bother cos they liked the fact we got a red (two absolute ****s on it) so the ref never actually got a view of it form any other angle so they actually left him out to dry with all the media calling him a stupid **** who gave a pen off a dive then sent a load off for nothing to even it up.


We have appealed it and i'd give it 50/50
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
well IMO the ref looked at the player rolling about more than anything and went red. he rolled 3 or 4 times and was bawling his eyes out them popped straight up.

Same goes for that foul on gakpo. that was absolute assault that day but he didn't stay down and scream.

The VAr then didn't bother cos they liked the fact we got a red (two absolute ****s on it) so the ref never actually got a view of it form any other angle so they actually left him out to dry with all the media calling him a stupid **** who gave a pen off a dive then sent a load off for nothing to even it up.


We have appealed it and i'd give it 50/50
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since there was contact & some of his studs were "showing" the "clear and obvious" instruction will be the reasoning from Var / FA.
People kept saying they wanted Var to be used in this way fans up and down the prem moan decisions aren't being changed <laugh>
One day they will realise VAR is the problem not the operators .
 
Solid_Air 2 said:
since there was contact & some of his studs were "showing" the "clear and obvious" instruction will be the reasoning from Var / FA.
People kept saying they wanted Var to be used in this way fans up and down the prem moan decisions aren't being changed <laugh>
One day they will realise VAR is the problem not the operators .
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honestly every time i see a player kick another players boot for example (far more force involved) then the player who's studs are there gets book.

I've never seen anyone sent off for that.

I think nobody would have batted an eyelid at that being yellow. absolutely nobody.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
honestly every time i see a player kick another players boot for example (far more force involved) then the player who's studs are there gets book.

I've never seen anyone sent off for that.

I think nobody would have batted an eyelid at that being yellow. absolutely nobody.
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oh i agree i'm just pointing out that using the"high bar" for cleat and obvious errors gives them a justification for var not overturning the decision .
 
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Solid_Air 2 said:
oh i agree i'm just pointing out that using the"high bar" for cleat and obvious errors gives them a justification for var not overturning the decision .
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This is why i keep saying jsut give the managers a single review and let them force the ref to relook at something and then explain why to the world what the "right" decision is.
 
Maybe the answer is to get rid of studs. :bandit:

I'm joking, naturally, but, a goalkeeper boot works fairly well and it would be an equal footing for everyone. Everyone would have slightly less grip.
 
Var need to get rid of the wording ‘clear and obvious’ as they just hide behind it to say well yeah 80% of people prob say it wasn’t a red but 20% think it might so it’s not clear.

Should just be is it wrong? Is it wrong that’s a red. Yes.. only person that thought it was a red was the ref (who for all we know had a dodgy view) and Mike Dean who for some reason seems to be only ex ref or player that thinks that way.

we don’t even know if the var thought it was a red. Because they only overturn ‘clear errors’ so even they may have thought it’s wrong but not wrong enough under current guidelines.
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
Var need to get rid of the wording ‘clear and obvious’ as they just hide behind it to say well yeah 80% of people prob say it wasn’t a red but 20% think it might so it’s not clear.

Should just be is it wrong? Is it wrong that’s a red. Yes.. only person that thought it was a red was the ref (who for all we know had a dodgy view) and Mike Dean who for some reason seems to be only ex ref or player that thinks that way.

we don’t even know if the var thought it was a red. Because they only overturn ‘clear errors’ so even they may have thought it’s wrong but not wrong enough under current guidelines.
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It's impossible not to personise it when you've got Paul Tierney on VAR and the **** that elbowed Robbo in the face.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Var need to get rid of the wording ‘clear and obvious’ as they just hide behind it to say well yeah 80% of people prob say it wasn’t a red but 20% think it might so it’s not clear.

Should just be is it wrong? Is it wrong that’s a red. Yes.. only person that thought it was a red was the ref (who for all we know had a dodgy view) and Mike Dean who for some reason seems to be only ex ref or player that thinks that way.

we don’t even know if the var thought it was a red. Because they only overturn ‘clear errors’ so even they may have thought it’s wrong but not wrong enough under current guidelines.
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and then folk will moan about re reffing the game and constant var stoppages
 
I don't have any faith in them overturning it even though they should. Hoping he gets a reduced ban at least but don't have much faith in that either.
 
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Evil Roy Slade said:
Mac Allister is a superb pen taker. About the tackle, all I can say is that as soon as he showed a red I knew it wouldn't be overturned because it looked bad. That is my fear about the appeal as well - they'll say that if VAR thought there was no clear or obvious error, why should they? In comparison to that tackle on Konate at Chelsea, and the Mings one for Villa against Gakpo, it is comical to say a high foot per see is a red card offence. But without wishing to do the whole victimhood thing, we're not City or United - the FA don't like us, and **** knows, we've made it abundantly clear we don't like them.

It won't get overturned. :(
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Mac and Dom are both excellent penalty takers ;)
 
frankly anyone but the ego trip of salah.

blasting it is all well and good but folk have him well pegged now as just smashing it anywhere.
 
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