Transfer Rumours Let's ignore the big ****ing elephant and blame the latest manager, again. Are we nearly there yet?
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No, we didn't sign him because of his wage demands.
Which you also object to.
Ditto Martinez.
Which you also object to.
Ditto Martinez.
Yeah - let's not sign a world class keeper for 200k a week, instead we can keep playing Turkey's no2 keeper having just bought some Belgium kid to sit on the bench Fkn madness. Shaw is crap, the last vestige of our back passing defenders - bring on Licha asap.. Amorim is like fkn dalek - this system will work - this system will work - well mate, it doesn't, not in the PL, especially when you bury our most creative player in deep midfield - what is that all about, does he think that Bruno passing to Ugarte is going to bring us goals. We have some exciting players, the problem is the farmer's league manager.
What is madness, is buying a striker who is just the same as the one we already had so we couldn't then afford the midfielder we actually needed.
That is madness.
That is madness.
With Cunha injured, the opportunity was there to move Bruno forward and have Mainoo in the midfield, with Casemiro.
To play Ugarte instead is where proper questions need to be asked of Amorim. Unless it was yet another signal along the lines of "told you we needed a central midfielder to make this work".
I could see Casemiro and Mainoo working, but only in the old McFred formation of 4 2 3 1 , which he won't play. Probably should for now though...............
We signed some decent players in the summer, but we also made some mistakes. A central midfielder was needed ahead of Sesko. We didn't actually need Sesko, when we had someone of very similar stature and ability already there in Hojlund. That money should have been used on Baleba or Wharton. It's allocated for January apparently, will Amorim still be around?
We also quite obviously need an actual right wing back, Dalot and Mazaroui aren't that, and never will be. Nor is Amad, but he's a better bet.
I think the reality is, Bruno should have been sold when the Saudi's first asked, we'd have had the £100 million to spend on an actual central midfielder then. He'd already been replaced by a 10 in Cunha, and he's not a central midfield player we need, so the reality is he was surplus even then and the money could have been better spent.
That all said, is the league season really over after four games? What was the expectation realistically? Top six I'd have said, which is still more than possible as the season is only just starting. We were never winning it, and top four was also unlikely.
Let the season pan out more.
To play Ugarte instead is where proper questions need to be asked of Amorim. Unless it was yet another signal along the lines of "told you we needed a central midfielder to make this work".
I could see Casemiro and Mainoo working, but only in the old McFred formation of 4 2 3 1 , which he won't play. Probably should for now though...............
We signed some decent players in the summer, but we also made some mistakes. A central midfielder was needed ahead of Sesko. We didn't actually need Sesko, when we had someone of very similar stature and ability already there in Hojlund. That money should have been used on Baleba or Wharton. It's allocated for January apparently, will Amorim still be around?
We also quite obviously need an actual right wing back, Dalot and Mazaroui aren't that, and never will be. Nor is Amad, but he's a better bet.
I think the reality is, Bruno should have been sold when the Saudi's first asked, we'd have had the £100 million to spend on an actual central midfielder then. He'd already been replaced by a 10 in Cunha, and he's not a central midfield player we need, so the reality is he was surplus even then and the money could have been better spent.
That all said, is the league season really over after four games? What was the expectation realistically? Top six I'd have said, which is still more than possible as the season is only just starting. We were never winning it, and top four was also unlikely.
Let the season pan out more.
Unfortunately I can't see this changing in the foreseeable future, Amorim is too stubborn to change and we would need to buy another three or four to create a squad in his image, and by then we'll be back in 12th. We've got rid of the players who wouldn't/couldn't adapt to his system and bought players at the top of their game at their respective clubs, yet still they show promise but the results stay the same.
The age old problem though (once again) is if not Amorim, then who?
The age old problem though (once again) is if not Amorim, then who?
If the board/social media 'fans'/some bloke on X, insists that Amorim reverts back to a formation they want, rather than the one he was literally employed to implement, it's the tail wagging the dog again and it will solve nothing.
We'd just be back to square one and the next stooge through the door. Admittedly, that stooge would have better players at his disposal than those ten Hag left, but there would still be some ten Hag players there unfortunately.
A bit of flexibility until a couple more players come in would not go amiss of course, but there is no way any manager should be told how to play by the board, or anyone else.
We'd just be back to square one and the next stooge through the door. Admittedly, that stooge would have better players at his disposal than those ten Hag left, but there would still be some ten Hag players there unfortunately.
A bit of flexibility until a couple more players come in would not go amiss of course, but there is no way any manager should be told how to play by the board, or anyone else.
Iraiola.
But why not give Jose another go, eh? Could work this time.
It won't, but it could.
Why do we always boil things down to who brought in what player? This is an entirely flawed logic!! Absolutely flawed especially in a world where Football Directors are becoming the norm.
So what they were brought in under Ten Haag?! So, if a manager brings in players that the club scouts agreed on and that manager decides to leave for one reason or another, should the other manager blame his failure on the fact that he didn't buy the players? A manager's job is to first work with whatever he has and make the most of it. Amorim has been fkin failing at this basic tenet for 30 games. Enough games to actually get us relegated based on his performance.
Eventually, Amorim will leave. Then we have to spend another 500 million pounds for the next manager to be effective? This is a textbook scenario of how to ruin a club completely.
Because some of those players are patently not good enough, that's why. Massive mistakes.
At least Onana and Antony are gone, but Ugarte is still there and Amorim has very little option but to use him.
All three of those are ten Hag choices, specifically. They weren't bought by a director of football following a plan, he didn't exsist.
That has come later, it's happening now, to an extent at least.
There isn't a manager out there who doesn't want to bring in some players that he actually wants.
At least Onana and Antony are gone, but Ugarte is still there and Amorim has very little option but to use him.
All three of those are ten Hag choices, specifically. They weren't bought by a director of football following a plan, he didn't exsist.
That has come later, it's happening now, to an extent at least.
There isn't a manager out there who doesn't want to bring in some players that he actually wants.
We need rid of Bayindir, Shaw, Ugarte, Dalot, Zirkzee and Mazraoui - the last three are at least triers, the others are just crap. I worry also about Martinez when he returns from injury, I'm not sure given his size that he will fit into Amorim's plans - he seems to prefer defenders of height who can offer a threat at set pieces. The jury is still out on whether Mainoo can recover from his hissy fit.
Is there any player that has improved under Amorim? The answer is objectively no! We have seen massive fallouts with players that showed promise. Mainoo is the most unfortunate one in my opinion. The very same player that bossed City’s better midfield in a cup final not so long ago. Yet here we are!
Even if we assume all the players are just awful, the last eight months should give us an opportunity to point to at very least one or two players that have come out on top under the manager’s guidance. So far, we have seen none.
“You have no idea what happened during these months (in charge), but I accept that,” he told reporters on Sunday night. “I am not going to change. When I want to change my philosophy, I will change. If not, you have to change the man.
“We talk about that every game that we lose. I believe in my way, and I am going to play my way until I want to change.”
This guy is so fkin egotistical it hurts! 31 points from 31 matches is truly relegation form. Yet he over-philosophizes what he fkin wants, becoming a prisoner to ideas in his head, while stubbornly ignoring feedback from the results. An absolute fkin dkhead!!
“We talk about that every game that we lose. I believe in my way, and I am going to play my way until I want to change.”
This guy is so fkin egotistical it hurts! 31 points from 31 matches is truly relegation form. Yet he over-philosophizes what he fkin wants, becoming a prisoner to ideas in his head, while stubbornly ignoring feedback from the results. An absolute fkin dkhead!!
Almost saturation coverage in the football press today regarding Amorim and his determination to play the game his way. Much of what has been written pretty much echoes the points we've raised her, so it's not just us. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks.
He has become a slave to his own psychological views about something that’s supposed to be adaptive. He set the tone way too early that he would never change. So, he’s now trapped having to defend it. Again, we’ve created a fkin unnecessary farce. A stupid sideshow that takes away from match day prep and execution on the field.
We know exactly what comes next, he gets driven out and then the next fall guy comes in.
Can't deny that he should be flexible. But I also stand by the fact he is adamant that when what he's trying to implement is fully up and running, it will work. Got to admire that, it's a million miles from being egotistical, it's just confidence in his own methods.
He is now, however, being pecked at by all sides to revert back to the very much tried and tested 4 2 3 1 , as if this is some form of Manchester United philosophy!
Let's be honest, if we are genuinely wanting to go back to the United way, it should be four four two.
And guess what, we'd still have the yawing gap in the centre of midfield due to the current lack of legs and quality.
If it gives him some breathing space though, he should definitely have that double pivot (Mainoo and Casemiro IMO) behind a three and a one, until such time he gets his legs in midfield, hopefully January window.
He won't though, so this is only heading one direction.
I genuinely hope he quits instead. And gives everyone a large **** you on the way out. Let some other sap try to get the likes of Ugarte, Dalot , Bayindir and Shaw to play some football.
Calling him out for not being able to improve players of such limited footballing intelligence is ludicrous to be absolutely honest. But he is trying to fit some square pegs into round holes at the moment and it needs to be resolved.
He's been there long enough to understand that the club can't afford to ship in all the players he might want in order to fulfil his plan. Only a fool would persist, week in, week out, playing the same style of play and expect different outcomes - the majority of this squad of players were not bought to play that way - yet he persists, he refuses to adapt his tactics and formation to the different teams each week. That isn't stubbornness, that isn't sticking to his principles - its just fkn madness and he'll be on his way in December if we're still languishing mid-table.
I think he will be gone soon. I’m unsure how I feel about it to be honest.
it took arteta and klopp a good few years to get their teams challenging when they took over. I think the issue is they still didn’t finish as low as we have.
I’ve posts stating we should get the manager of Crystal Palace, yet he plays the same system as Amorim.
I think mistakes are still being made at board level. We shouldn’t have got rid of Hojlund. Could argue we should never have never gotten rid of McTominay. Though I challenge anyone to have said he would end being nominated for the ballon dor. Quite why we couldn’t get Donarumma either is madness when he is arguably one of the best in the world. Instead we get another nobody from a **** league.
I’m resigned to us being ****.
it took arteta and klopp a good few years to get their teams challenging when they took over. I think the issue is they still didn’t finish as low as we have.
I’ve posts stating we should get the manager of Crystal Palace, yet he plays the same system as Amorim.
I think mistakes are still being made at board level. We shouldn’t have got rid of Hojlund. Could argue we should never have never gotten rid of McTominay. Though I challenge anyone to have said he would end being nominated for the ballon dor. Quite why we couldn’t get Donarumma either is madness when he is arguably one of the best in the world. Instead we get another nobody from a **** league.
I’m resigned to us being ****.