Transfer Rumours Let's ignore the big ****ing elephant and blame the latest manager, again. Are we nearly there yet?

[glazerfodder]

Eh? What has any of that got to do with what I just posted

How early do you ant signings on board - what will they do, play Monopoly until pre-season starts......... Be patient, trust in the system, ETH has targets but we have to accept that we're a million miles off the ace at the moment so what incentive can we offer new signings - the answer is none, certainly not this window so we will have to be content with some grafters and fighters - Mark Hughes Mkll and his kind, I really can't see us being a big enough draw this window

 

[Treble]

How early do you ant signings on board - what will they do, play Monopoly until pre-season starts......... Be patient, trust in the system, ETH has targets but we have to accept that we're a million miles off the ace at the moment so what incentive can we offer new signings - the answer is none, certainly not this window so we will have to be content with some grafters and fighters - Mark Hughes Mkll and his kind, I really can't see us being a big enough draw this window

So let me get this right - you think that new signings and the squad do nothing before pre-season games? So everyone just turns up for the flight to Thailand?

Btw I've never once said we need ace signings or big name signings. But Bisouma for example may have been the type of signing we could be making. In fact, I was hoping that gems under the radar, which perhaps we were doing our homework on may have been signed. I'd be quite happy for us to sign 3/4 players I've not heard of by the end of the transfer window if they have Ten Hag's stamp on them. I just expected the ball would've been rolling with at least one by now. Instead we're infatuated with a £73m De Jong which will likely happen, but seems to be taking all our focus and energy.

 

[Diego]

Just had a quick look on Sky transfer news, they have us "linked" to 27 players at the moment, others are naming different players

When are the players expected back at Carrington to begin training? a lot of deals to strike before then

 

[Chief]

It's gossip column season, 99% is just speculative bollocks and we shouldn't get too het up by it.

If we don't get the de Jong deal done soon then I'd be concerned. If we do though, I think couple more will follow.

It is typical United though, getting bogged down by one big deal in the glare of the media eye.

 

[glazerfodder]

So let me get this right - you think that new signings and the squad do nothing before pre-season games? So everyone just turns up for the flight to Thailand?

Btw I've never once said we need ace signings or big name signings. But Bisouma for example may have been the type of signing we could be making. In fact, I was hoping that gems under the radar, which perhaps we were doing our homework on may have been signed. I'd be quite happy for us to sign 3/4 players I've not heard of by the end of the transfer window if they have Ten Hag's stamp on them. I just expected the ball would've been rolling with at least one by now. Instead we're infatuated with a £73m De Jong which will likely happen, but seems to be taking all our focus and energy.

That's not what I said. The squad hasn't even been recalled to training yet but most of the players (not just our own squad) will be keeping up their training regime even while on holiday to one degree or another. So long as we have signings on board for/during pre-season I'll be happy - I don't want to see any transfer sagas drag on to the end of the window .

 

[cytrax]

But Bisouma for example may have been the type of signing we could be making. In fact, I was hoping that gems under the radar, which perhaps we were doing our homework on may have been signed. I'd be quite happy for us to sign 3/4 players I've not heard of by the end of the transfer window if they have Ten Hag's stamp on them. I just expected the ball would've been rolling with at least one by now. Instead we're infatuated with a £73m De Jong which will likely happen, but seems to be taking all our focus and energy.

I can’t believe Tottenham payed £30m for Bisouma. That’s the type of player we would have chalked for three months then pay cheap £55m for.

I now disdain reading about De Jong. It’s almost as bad as reading about Pogba’s documentary. Almost!

If the team is going to be made up of mostly academy players, fine! Let that intention be known as it removes us from gossips. Staying open and desperate in the transfer marker creates negative psychological effects whether we like it or not.

I read a gossip today that Ronaldo does not feel he fits into Ten Hag’s plan due to the style of football expected to press from the front. Hopefully by the time we’ve lost the first 11, we will eventually sign one Galactico to a massive fanfare. Yay!!

 

[Christiansmith]

The press is starting to pile the pressure on TH saying his transfer business is starting to look ropey. With one target turning him down, another held up by club asking more money. The club is already talking of being ‘held to ransom’. shouldn’t the club not have realised by now that once Utd comes calling the price of the player goes up? Just pay the ****ing premium and get on with it. It’s not as if we haven’t squandered hundred of millions on unsuitable players

The world and his dog now knows Utd is desperate for the DeJong deal to go through. It seems now to be the key. Others will follow through . VanGaal seems to be enjoying his moment of revenge on the club. He’s already warned the players that unless they play regular football they won’t get selected for the World Cup. One Ajax defender has already dropped out of a possible transfer.

 

[cytrax]

Let’s not worry, CS! Preseason/season hasn’t started.

 

[Treble]

The press is starting to pile the pressure on TH saying his transfer business is starting to look ropey. With one target turning him down, another held up by club asking more money. The club is already talking of being ‘held to ransom’. shouldn’t the club not have realised by now that once Utd comes calling the price of the player goes up? Just pay the ****ing premium and get on with it. It’s not as if we haven’t squandered hundred of millions on unsuitable players

The world and his dog now knows Utd is desperate for the DeJong deal to go through. It seems now to be the key. Others will follow through . VanGaal seems to be enjoying his moment of revenge on the club. He’s already warned the players that unless they play regular football they won’t get selected for the World Cup. One Ajax defender has already dropped out of a possible transfer.

Tbf any player that does that, fck 'em. I wouldn't want them anywhere near the club. Especialy as they're Dutch and would only not play regular footy under TH if they didn't perform. So what does that say about them.

I don't give a **** about the rumours. What I find weird is that we didn't have lesser known gems lined up whose signatures would've been easier to get done and then build from there.

 

[cytrax]

Tbf any player that does that, fck 'em. I wouldn't want them anywhere near the club. Especialy as they're Dutch and would only not play regular footy under TH if they didn't perform. So what does that say about them.

I don't give a **** about the rumours. What I find weird is that we didn't have lesser known gems lined up whose signatures would've been easier to get done and then build from there.

We did with Ajax players. I would have thought those are easier to secure without it dragging on. Identify, close the deal!

It feels like we start our analysis after showing interests, then things get stalled.

 

[Chief]

United aren't just 'paying what they want' because they know Barcelona need the money.

So why the **** should they? In this instance, I see the point. A deal should ultimately be made.

Ten Hag has clearly said that he wants to base his team round De Jong, yet this is somehow deemed to not be ok, he should be looking elsewhere because the deal hasn't already been done.

Do we back this new manager? Or not? What way do we actually want this, support the manager in his targets or get whiney as **** that we should just sign someone, anyone, because, you know, that's what Liverpool have done.

Timber is not a deal breaker, if we don't sign him it makes **** all difference on the grand scheme. If he's too scared to make the jump, **** it.

De Jong is the key transfer.

 

[Christiansmith]

United aren't just 'paying what they want' because they know Barcelona need the money.

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De Jong is the key transfer.

Agree on this point.

So three possible outcomes:

1. DeJong transferred to Utd at a reduced price: good negotiating by the execs

2. DeJong transferred to Utd at Barca’s asking price: useless negotiating tactics but got our man in the end. So good outcome still.

3. DeJong stays at Barca as both clubs refuse to budge from their original positions: **** outcome as the manager starts on the back foot, one of our potential key players disappears and other transfers become more difficult.


Let’s hope that the 3rd disastrous outcome doesn’t happen.

 

[Treble]

By all means go for De Jong. I don't understand why we can't be signing other players in the mean time though.

Surely they don't all have to be high profile?

Well, we'll see how it goes. Could all turn out as planned.

 

[Diego]

Not really sure why we are fixated on de Jong, the position yes but not the particular player unless ETH wants someone he knows at the club.


EDIT.........maybe he sees him as captain?

 

[cytrax]

Not really sure why we are fixated on de Jong, the position yes but not the particular player unless ETH wants someone he knows at the club.


EDIT.........maybe he sees him as captain?

This is exactly my sentiment. I’m more concerned about the depleted squad without reinforcements.

By all means go for De Jong. I don't understand why we can't be signing other players in the mean time though.

Surely they don't all have to be high profile?

Well, we'll see how it goes. Could all turn out as planned.

This is to Christiansmith’s third point.. de Jong stays where he is because money came out nowhere for Barca and they refuse to sell him. Are we playing a game with Barca’s desperation for money?

While I’m confident that the club will sign players (I mean, surely we can’t be that fkin stupid to fk this up), I’m still waiting for an indication that the club has a coherent transfer strategy.

On that note, I’m glad that we are not the only ones concerned and that Arnold is taking the lead to address the fans directly - https://www.sportbible.com/utddistrict/arnold-man-utd-protests-transfer-stratagy-20220618.amp.html

I particularly like that he acknowledges what a wasteful club we have been in the past ten years. This bolds very well that going forward, we will be more methodical in engineering having defined roles for all members of the team, both incoming and existing.

 

[Christiansmith]

By all means go for De Jong. I don't understand why we can't be signing other players in the mean time though.

Surely they don't all have to be high profile?

Well, we'll see how it goes. Could all turn out as planned.

The problem is that these players that Utd are interested in are also being chased by other premiership clubs that not so long ago would not have a look in if Utd came calling. The likes of Spurs and Arsenal are being joined by Newcastle, Wolves, Leicester Everton In bidding for that second tier of players.

Ferguson and Gill made it look easy to get top players but the current execs have to earn their corn. Woodward as ****ing CEO famously said that the financial success of Utd did not depend on the success on the pitch. Now we need Arnold and his people to reverse the culture of complacency and take buying the right players seriously.

 

[Christiansmith]

This is exactly my sentiment. I’m more concerned about the depleted squad without reinforcements.

This is to Christiansmith’s third point.. de Jong stays where he is because money came out nowhere for Barca and they refuse to sell him. Are we playing a game with Barca’s desperation for money?

While I’m confident that the club will sign players (I mean, surely we can’t be that fkin stupid to fk this up), I’m still waiting for an indication that the club has a coherent transfer strategy.

On that note, I’m glad that we are not the only ones concerned and that Arnold is taking the lead to address the fans directly - https://www.sportbible.com/utddistrict/arnold-man-utd-protests-transfer-stratagy-20220618.amp.html

I particularly like that he acknowledges what a wasteful club we have been in the past ten years. This bolds very well that going forward, we will be more methodical in engineering having defined roles for all members of the team, both incoming and existing.

you bet? This club has ****ed up constantly with their recruitments in the last ten years

 

[glazerfodder]

The Barca members voted just the other day to sell off their retailing arm, a move that will raise €500m plus in the foreseeable future so the financial imperative for Barca to sell off players just vanished. Even if the retail arm sale is years away they will borrow against that capital injection in the short to medium term. Their immediate focus is on bringing in players rather than selling so we may well have to pay the full asking price and be done with it.

 

[Chief]

By all means go for De Jong. I don't understand why we can't be signing other players in the mean time though.

Surely they don't all have to be high profile?

Well, we'll see how it goes. Could all turn out as planned.

Because there's a transfer budget, and it depends how much de Jong costs first.

Just a guess?

 

[Christiansmith]

Because there's a transfer budget, and it depends how much de Jong costs first.

Just a guess?

with all the talk from Arnold about how the club will definitely prioritise the purchase of DeJong and TenHaag apparently getting frustrated with the deal not going through, is it any surprise that Barcelona will stick to their asking price? Even a seven year old can see that there is no incentive for the sellers to reduce the price. All the talk of taking advantage of Barcelona’s financial problems just pie in the sky. Utd will eventually pay the original asking price or very close to it. When a club is keen to get a player it should pay the asking price. Look at the top recent purchases of City and the RS. Pay the asking price and move on. None of the protracted drama which Utd always seem to be involved in.