lets be positive

Party Hull! said:
Like I said, I'm not happy about home form. No one is, obviously. But you're predicting doom before it's happened. I don't think all is rosy, I'm not really looking forward to tomorrow, but obviously I'll give it my all.

You whinge, say I've accused you of not supporting, but you accused me of 'sitting on my hands' which is the same. So you decide which version of home support suits youe agenda best.
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Ignore him Party Hull, reading his posts on this thread he's just being a clown as always and looking for an argument with someone. I don't think anyone is happy with the home form, but come 3pm today we have to put it behind us, get behind the team and hope we beat Reading.
 
Manuel said:
Ignore him Party Hull, reading his posts on this thread he's just being a clown as always and looking for an argument with someone. I don't think anyone is happy with the home form, but come 3pm today we have to put it behind us, get behind the team and hope we beat Reading.
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And if that doesnt work? Then voice some anger towards the Allams as we need better players. If they can give rovers a million quid then they can buy a decent fukin forward, which is doveston's point.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
And if that doesnt work? Then voice some anger towards the Allams as we need better players. If they can give rovers a million quid then they can buy a decent fukin forward, which is doveston's point.
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They didn't give Rovers £1m, they loaned them it.

They've put nearly £50m into the club so far, we'd all love to see NP get the sort of money that Southampton or Leicester have been spending, but it's unreasonable to expect it. After what's been done already, we should be showing them our appreciation, not our anger.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
And if that doesnt work? Then voice some anger towards the Allams as we need better players. If they can give rovers a million quid then they can buy a decent fukin forward, which is doveston's point.
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The Allams know we need reinforcements and there's still 4 days left of the transfer window. They have eyes, they'll see what we need on the pitch. Another defeat and poor show today then yes people have every right to vent their disappointment, but i feel that today is a game that will suit as Reading will in all likelyhood come here to attack which may bring us out of our shell. If we get behind the lads then it should help, instead of baying for blood everytime someone does something wrong (misplaced pass etc).
 
originallambrettaman said:
They didn't give Rovers £1m, they loaned them it.

They've put nearly £50m into the club so far, we'd all love to see NP get the sort of money that Southampton or Leicester have been spending, but it's unreasonable to expect it. After what's been done already, we should be showing them our appreciation, not our anger.
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I arent talking massive money at all. Adebolla is sh1t you have said it yourself. Mckenna isnt the answer either. Why buy rubbish just for the sake of it. We were nearly buying Ayala, when we have already purchased two centre backs. The priority was and is to get a centre midfield in and a forward.
Why have they loaned Rovers a million quid? They should concentrate on football, we are losing fans cos the product on the pitch isnt good enough.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
I arent talking massive money at all. Adebolla is sh1t you have said it yourself. Mckenna isnt the answer either. Why buy rubbish just for the sake of it. We were nearly buying Ayala, when we have already purchased two centre backs. The priority was and is to get a centre midfield in and a forward.
Why have they loaned Rovers a million quid? They should concentrate on football, we are losing fans cos the product on the pitch isnt good enough.
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I wouldn't have signed Adebola, I think there were better options available, but there's not a fat lot we can do about it now. I'm still not sure about McKenna, he hasn't been terrible, but he's not the most exciting signing in the world either. We will get a new striker in next week, we should wait to see who it is before making any judgement.

As for the centre back situation, if we lose either Chester or Hobbs to injury, we only have Bradley to replace them, a kid with no first team football experience at all, we definitely do need another centre back(I'd hope that if it was Kilgallon, he'd start ahead of Hobbs, though it seems more likely that NP would drop Chester, if he was dropping either).

As for the what the Allam's do with their own money, it's entirely up to them, who the hell are we to tell them what to do with it, they've already invested £50m in the club.
 
Manuel said:
Ignore him Party Hull, reading his posts on this thread he's just being a clown as always and looking for an argument with someone. I don't think anyone is happy with the home form, but come 3pm today we have to put it behind us, get behind the team and hope we beat Reading.
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Agree. Think we'll get something today.
 
originallambrettaman said:
I wouldn't have signed Adebola, I think there were better options available, but there's not a fat lot we can do about it now. I'm still not sure about McKenna, he hasn't been terrible, but he's not the most exciting signing in the world either. We will get a new striker in next week, we should wait to see who it is before making any judgement.

As for the centre back situation, if we lose either Chester or Hobbs to injury, we only have Bradley to replace them, a kid with no first team football experience at all, we definitely do need another centre back(I'd hope that if it was Kilgallon, he'd start ahead of Hobbs, though it seems more likely that NP would drop Chester, if he was dropping either).

As for the what the Allam's do with their own money, it's entirely up to them, who the hell are we to tell them what to do with it, they've already invested £50m in the club.
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"Who the hell are we to tell them what to do with it" I find that shocking. We are exactly who should be telling them what to do with it. They wouldnt be the first to buy a club and look solely at the money to be made by developing the ground etc and take their eye off the actual football on the pitch. You know make poor cheap signings. This guy says it better than me anyway.
 
This is the post off amber nectar's officer crabtree
My point, I guess, is a wider one. There are things about the current regime that don't sit quite right with me. I hope I'm wrong, of course, but the Allams seem to have bought Hull City as a route to other things. They've made an initial splash and now they seem to be going about thing with regards to the football team on the cheap with regards to moving it forward while making a load of gestures and statements that do nothing for the development for Hull City football club, but seem to be more about getting the people of Hull on their side and putting pressure on people to get what they wanted. I was initially happy with their proposals to make the stadium a bit bigger. To me was all about ambition for the football club, but the way they've gone about it and the way in which they seem to be looking so far into a future that may or may not happen while not paying their full attention the short-term needs of the club is worrying.

What worries me most are the parallels with the Lloyd regime:
Saved the club from a financial abyss: check.
Made an initial big financial lay-out with high-profile players: check.
Have a slick chief exec who doesn't seem to get the majority of the fans: for Mark Maguire read Michael Appleton.
Seem to be more focused about grand plans for the real estate and business side of the wider Hull sporting empire than they do Hull City's progress on the pitch: check.
Too many links with the rugby teams: check.
Behave a bit childishly when they don't get their way: check.
Things going a bit backwards on the pitch: check.

Hence my comments about winning games. I'm not convinced about the focus of our owners on what really matters for City. To get players to come to a club in the lower reaches of the Championship in a city that doesn't have the best of reputations means that we might have to pay a bit more for quality. We haggled over Austin and Ayala, the two players I was most gutted we didn't get, until the prices went down to what other teams were willing to pay for them. Which is fine. That makes good business sense to an extent, but it vastly reduces our chances of attracting quality. I just don't get the financial strategy of the Allams. They seem to be willing to spend cash on various things that don't really benefit our cause (see today's HDM re: the underwriting of the costs for the England v Hull rugby league game for the latest example of this) but not willing to pay the extra half million that it would have cost us to stand what would appear to be a very good chance of bringing in two players who would be better than what we've got at what they do. We then start to take pretty desperate measures with regards to getting fans to turn up. The two don't sit right with me right now. Hopefully I'm being a tit.

It's the Allams' money, and, obviously, they can do what they like with it. I just remain unconvinced over what they are focusing on. Hopefully we've been waiting for the end of the whole Bullard saga before the masterplan comes to life, which I appreciate could well have drained the finances of the Allams, but we do seem to be losing ground to clubs that we should at least be on a par with.

So all in all, so far I'm not that impressed. Cheap gimmicks don't paper over cracks for very long.
 
Half of that is nonsense, we had an offer accepted for Ayala, we only only lost out because that offer was matched my a Premier League club. We went to £1.2m for Austin, which was a big offer for a League One player, but we were outbid by Ipswich at £1.5m and he eventually went to Burnley for somewhere around that amount(and he's only made the starting XI once so far this season).

If people wish to be sceptical about the Allam's, then that's their choice, the fact that they've paid twice as much for Hull City as it's worth, just to keep the club in business is good enough for me. Comparisons with David Lloyd are daft, he had no connection with Hull, his interest was purely commercial and I don't believe that to be the case with the Allam's. All this talk of it being a vehicle for a property investment make little sense, firstly because the stadium can only remain a sports stadium, it can never be developed for anything else. Secondly, the proposal is just to build a sports village, any planning would only allow a sports village and it's unlikely to generate a massive amount in revenue, it's not even viable to build it at all, without lottery funding.

There seems to be a natural suspicion of everything that happens in this great city of ours, which I find a little disappointing.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
"Who the hell are we to tell them what to do with it" I find that shocking. We are exactly who should be telling them what to do with it. They wouldnt be the first to buy a club and look solely at the money to be made by developing the ground etc and take their eye off the actual football on the pitch. You know make poor cheap signings. This guy says it better than me anyway.
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The worst post I've read for quite some time.
 
And lads... Calm Down, together we unite for the sake of CITY not having a snipe at one another.

Manuel - All your posts are spot on mate and fully agree with all you've put on this thread too.
 
Hes a clown I imagine him to look like Mr Muscle sat on his laptop acting all hard thinking of a way to lose his virginity!
 
What the **** wrong with you doveston, anyone would think it was the ****ing end of the season. We are 4 matches into the new season and your writing off the team already. Get ****ing real m8
 
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