Lee Burge

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Something that not many of ours looked like doing last night. I suppose to some extent you make your own luck.

Aye I was thinking about the idea of making your own luck when I was watching the game and I think essentially it comes down to desire. Teams that want it more appear to be luckier.
 
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'Doesn't command his box' is the keeper equivalent of 'the manager has lost the dressing room' ...

... sounds profound and impossible to prove/disprove ...

... a bit like Feng Shui.
 
Not a chance Burge is to blame for that a goalkeeper would never turn his back to play looking for the byline.
Our midfield has no creativity and the ball predictively goes to the wings or floated long. Take charge, drive through the middle and upset the central defenders.
 
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'Doesn't command his box' is the keeper equivalent of 'the manager has lost the dressing room' ...

... sounds profound and impossible to prove/disprove ...

... a bit like Feng Shui.

Not at all. It's a huge part of a solid defensive unit to have a keeper who can take command of a situation and come to collect,e.g. a high ball, letting his team mates know that's what he's doing. Burge is far too often stuck on his line.
 
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People also missing the fact that Flanagan should have moved out wide to provide an outlet for Burge to pass to...
This all day long - he makes the pass and then stops dead - he should have been busting a gut to make himself available for the return pass if required.

Also as soon as the goal went in him and Wright just turned around and walked back to their mark - its as if they couldnt have given 2 ****s.

Flanagan was ****ing woeful last night - yes Burge isnt anywhere near the standard of what we've had in the last 10 years but at this level he is decent - he's been let down shockingly by the absolute ****show in front of him.

My only hope i can take from it is that I should only have to watch these cretins one last time before a whole new team is brought in.

I'd **** every last one of them off. All to a man ****e last night - and i also include Johnson in that - thinks he far cleverer than he actually is.
 
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Let’s look logically at this.

He has less than a second to make up his mind. I wonder how many on here have tried to catch something out of instinct knowing afterwards that it hurts when you catch or try to? I dislocated my shoulder a long time ago. Throw me a ball, chances are I try to catch it and it will hurt my shoulder as the decision is split second.

Had he put it out fir a corner and they scored from that, it’d be is fault fir not clearing it. Had he put it out fir a corner he’d also probably be slated for not clearing it!!

To expect a league one keeper to assess a whole situation in a fraction of a second and conclude that a corner is the best option is utterly ridiculous (I note people say “other optionS” yet only give one). A handful of premier league keepers would’ve assessed that quickly. And none of them would put it out for a corner!

He smashed it to clear it. Can anyone else remember the last time someone scored in that way? Last one I remember was Maguire 3 years ago. Which, in itself, explains a lot . It sticks in the memory because it happens once in a blue moon. If it hits the attacker, >99% of the time it rebounds to safety.

remember watching loads of clearances closed down but can’t remember any ending in the back of the net. Always a goal kick or throw in

Professional footballers have to make important decisions within seconds, that’s what sets them apart from amateur players.

Which is exactly what burge is, amateur.
 
Burge has made some decent saves....it was a bad back pass from Flanagan,who always has a mistake in him somewhere. My biggest problem with Burge is he doesn't seem to command his box.
The big puzzle is the way half of this team have alarmingly lost their form......Wright,O9,Power,McGeady,Wyke....all of them mostly shocking of late.
First person on my team sheet for Saturday would be Maguire.
He's also made some right howlers during the other game and cost us in at least three =9 points
 
Not a chance Burge is to blame for that a goalkeeper would never turn his back to play looking for the byline.
Our midfield has no creativity and the ball predictively goes to the wings or floated long. Take charge, drive through the middle and upset the central defenders.

This is our biggest problem. Our midfield also lacks pace and a cutting edge, either with a pass or a run at the defence. Too many passes back or sideways, they take the safe option every time, so create nothing. None of our midfield make runs beyond our strikers, they just run around the centre of the pitch and play everything in front of the opposition defence.

They are not helped by our immobile strikers who are too easy to mark. They need to create space for the ball to be played into.

The goalkeeping position is the least of our worries imo.
 
The keeper is awful, he better not be with us next season, unless he is 3rd choice
Cannot get my head around why we did not replace him in the last window
 
George Long is being released by us, very good but lost his place and doesn’t want to renew his contract. Easily a solid League One/Lower Championship keeper. He’d be a great option for you on a free transfer.

Good luck in the return leg, it’ll be tight but it’s not impossible (no matter how much of a pessimist you are!)
 
And their player busting a gut to make it happen, if he doesn't do that they don't score and there's no issue.
Have to say I think having O’Nien in an advanced position will give us some someone who will do that! We have no one at the minute
 
always amazes me that the opposition can pick the ball up from their own box and run all the way to our box with complete ease, think the last time we did it (the only time?) was when gooch ran at them and scored, or they manage to pass it out wide and forwards, yet we always, always struggle to find a forward pass even though we can see 'free' players in decent positions, yet the only option our midfield tend to see is a sideways or backwards pass resulting in a hoof upfield.

the team have reverted to far too many schoolboy errors, sloppy passing, waiting for the ball to come to them, not being able to find a team mate, leaving big holes in the middle and in defence...all simple to correct yet they seem incapable of changing, a good portion of goals against us come from our own mistakes and not any great tactics from the opposition.
 
Not at all. It's a huge part of a solid defensive unit to have a keeper who can take command of a situation and come to collect,e.g. a high ball, letting his team mates know that's what he's doing. Burge is far too often stuck on his line.
He has been caught in two minds on multiple occasions which actually causes problems across the whole of the defence.. Burge may not to have been at fault to Flanagans short back pass but he reacted too slowly to prevent what happened, happened. Its not just this last game, Burge has been indecisvie in all of the games since we signed him. Anyone recall the O'Nien own goal?
 
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Kieran Westwood has just been released by Sheff Wed. Id have him back in a heartbeat

Same. I'd like to have a look at Bursik in on loan as well tho. Never like loan signings usually but as a goalkeeper its slightly different as they're more easily changeable year on year.
 
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He has been caught in two minds on multiple occasions which actually causes problems across the whole of the defence.. Burge may not to have been at fault to Flanagans short back pass but he reacted too slowly to prevent what happened, happened. Its not just this last game, Burge has been indecisvie in all of the games since we signed him. Anyone recall the O'Nien own goal?

Yep. I think this has been a major achilles heal in our season. Although Burge has made some good stops,sometimes excellent stops, his indecisiveness, when combined with a largely makeshift back line,and neither having any confidence in each other,is,in my view,a key reason we find ourselves where we are.
 
He didn’t look great to me the last couple games I watched him in. There’s a reason why they have released him

I read their forum and alot of the fans think he's been treat harshly and think he should have been given another year.
Im guessing he was released because hes 36 now. Id still have him for a season, even if its as a number 2 to another new keeper.