Ledley overrated

[chelsea - over 100 years of history]

Me neither. King was head and shoulders above Terry. Without the damaged knee, Terry wouldn't have played half as many games for England and King probably wouldn't have stayed at Spurs.

Based on what exactly? No defender in the last 10 years has been head and shoulders above Terry let alone a player who spent his whole career playing for an average P.L team. No offense meant just stating the obvious. Terry has competed at the highest level and won loads of honours. Without injuries King may have done to but it's only conjecture and chances are, he wouldn't have.

 

[CFCTEL]

Playing a premier league game is not the highest level as generally only 3 points are on the line. The highest level is playing when victory REALLY matters i.e cup finals, C.L, international tournaments.

If playing Man U is the highest level then the players at Crawley have played at the higest level.

Love it!

 

[No Kane No Gain]

Stats from last four seasons, when Spuds have been the equal or better of Chelsea

Lol, I'll take that

We will never know who was the better, however Ledley King was a really good player. Without his knee injury I have no doubt he would have been the equal of Terry or Rio, maybe even better, but we will never know.
Bit of a pointless arguement really.

Agreed.

The stats are daft too. For example, the rate of tackles depends on how the team plays and how good many of their other players. Faurlin averaged the most tackles per game last season and the highest for a defender was Luke Young, what does that mean? Not a lot, neither are exceptional at defenders and the logic is clearly flawed for comparing tackling rates for centre backs when Koscielny was the highest for an out and out centre back in the league last season and he was 23rd overall. Tackling is important for a defender, of course it is, but having a high rate of tackling is clearly not.

 

[Romans advisor]

No, because football isn't an individual sport and stats prove nothing. Terry has played in better teams than King, so I would be amazed if his stats aren't better. Watching the 2 of them play, King was faster, better positioned and better on the ball. No stats will change that view.

Have you been shmoking pancakes?

 

[District Line]

Me neither. King was head and shoulders above Terry. Without the damaged knee, Terry wouldn't have played half as many games for England and King probably wouldn't have stayed at Spurs.

That's one of the greatest Spurs myths going at the moment

 

[cfc ollie]

We will never know who was the better, however Ledley King was a really good player. Without his knee injury I have no doubt he would have been the equal of Terry or Rio, maybe even better, but we will never know.
Bit of a pointless arguement really.

Spot on.

Anyone trying to make a case for JT being better than King on stats alone knows next to nothing about football. It's akin to the Moneyball approach that Damien Comolli used to identify Downing, Henderson, Carroll, & Adam as the players who would make all the difference at Liverpool. You have to actually watch games and anyone who watched King at his peak would be in no doubt as to how good he could have been without his injury.

Better than JT? We'll never know for sure, so as CP says it's a pointless argument.

 

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

That's one of the greatest Spurs myths going at the moment

Agree. He was injured a lot. JT plays through injuries and has won ten trophies. Ledley didn't. So John is better CB.

I'm sure there are lots of 'if only he hadn't been injured so much' sob stories.

Fit players are better than injured players. End of.

ledley's problems with alcohol and violence cannot have helped his rehabilitations either

 

[Varier2]

Haha yeah of course, Ledly injuries. Not like Terry lifted an FA Cup with cracked ribs, or is playing through a reoccurring nerve problem is his back.

 

[CFCTEL]

We will never know who was the better, however Ledley King was a really good player. Without his knee injury I have no doubt he would have been the equal of Terry or Rio, maybe even better, but we will never know.
Bit of a pointless arguement really.

No we won't but what we can do, is look at what each player has achieved - the outcome speaks for itself regardless of injuries, misdemeanour's or whatever JT's parents have done to make him a bad person!