leave her there
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Most of us would hope our teenage kids couldn't be groomed like those poor teenagers in Rotherham, or be persuaded to keep quiet about being abused by priests or football coaches, or remain in abusive relationships or be pressured into being in a gang or carrying weapons....but some youngsters at points are vulnerable and do these things. I do not pretend to understand why and suspect their is not one simple answer but just cos we do not understand it, it does not mean it is not possible.
I do not like what she has done, or what she is currently and do not feel sympathy for her as a 19 year old...but she was probably not groomed/persuaded to do as she did in a short time she was probably targeted for a year or two....and (maybe it makes me a liberal fo gooder to some) but I do feel for any child coerced into making such a terrible decision.
In my view she should be made to face justice. True justice. This will be seen as fair and not make her a martyre.
At some point Britain and the West need to learn lessons.
Denying true justice in Ireland with internment and show trials of people like the Birmingham 6 is acknowledged as being the biggest recruitment tool of the IRA. The same is true of the possibly illegal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq in relation to IS terrorists.
I do not know anyone who wants her set free but some of what I have heard and read worries me TBH.
For the most part the debate on here has been civil but elsewhere it resembles that politics thread
I don’t think it’s comparable to put the Rotherham sex offences alongside with Shamima’s (and others) decision to join IS. One case is a group of girls forced into sexual slavery. The other is someone who decided to hop on a plane to Turkey, get into Syria and join our current greatest enemy.
The problem also, mate, is that you and I both know that if she were to return, for sure she’d face trial and likely get sent down for a spell but you think she’d be inside for the rest of her life? Absolutely not, she’ll be out after x amount of years and will then be afforded protection at the cost of the taxpayer because her life will be seen as in danger due to her affiliation.
Before this goes any further , for those of you now using this to have a pop at DMD , can I ask you please to stop ?
I’m not interested in why etc , it’s just not needed .
I’m not interested in why etc , it’s just not needed .
There’s some very angry people on this thread, I suggest some of you take a step back, perhaps brew some Ovaltine and reassess the situation tomorrow.
For future reference, who can and can’t we have a pop at?
Maybe she could just go there and claim asylum in a safe haven.
She’d have trouble claiming asylum wouldn’t she.
So, you joined a terrorist cult willingly and spent the last 4 years willingly making bombs and dodging bullets, but you’re a bit scared because a nasty man might shout at you or spit on your dress? Riiightoooo then, neeext!
I knew this would be the response . Whoever you like and where ever ok ?
Pardon me for trying to bring a bit of respect .....
Bye.....
He really doesn’t. It’s a football forum where some posters are allowed to say literally anything. To pick up on a small number of such innocuous posts in the context of the thread was odd.
And yet some reckon she should be let back here. Bizarre.
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