League shootouts?

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Should penalties at the end of league games be considered?


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Do excuse me for trespassing on the Saints board - it has a somewhat larger audience than ours!

A question about the league points structure.

Both sides have spent time in the lower leagues in our lifetime and the change I'm asking about is the one currently used in the group stage of the Football League Trophy.
Here, when a match is drawn, both sides get a point as normal, but they have a penalty shootout which wins a second point for the winner.

So the question is

Should we introduce this to the football league?
You may well up for it, dead against it or unsure.
Maybe try it out somewhere like the National League first?
 
As a concept, I'd be against it, as a team that has 'earnt' a draw should be treated the same as their opposition, so one point each. However, as a way of giving all players practice at taking penalties (or facing penalties), in a real world, high pressure situation, it would stand our international players in good stead. It seems that most international players (OK, the Home Nations ones) rarely take penalties, and any amount of practice on the training ground isn't as realistic as taking a penalty in front of a crowd, hostile or otherwise, knowing that the outcome of scoring, or not scoring, actually matters.
 
The only way it would be fair for a team to win extra points would be for goals scored in a game (say over 5) but even then I would be against it because it would on average benefit the richer clubs in a league so I say keep things as they are.

I'm a fan of the NHL and they have a sudden death extra period with less players on each side for the extra point and it works ok but that wouldn't work for football I don't think,
 
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No from me for two main reasons:


1 - it creates extra variance in where the points WBs up, we’ll end up with a title or relegation place decided by who won more shootouts rather than matches


2 - we’ll end up with teams subbing on “penalty specialists” in injury time, breaking up ahy rhythm to the end of a close game. Plus we’ll end up with more and more silly run-ups to suffer through
 
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Strong No from me, a draw is a draw in the league.

League position and points is an exercise in consistency.

Short form competitions like the six nations benefit from bonus points as it promotes attacking play and draws are a lot less common but it's based on in game activity - ie score enough or lose by a small amount and not an arbitrary pot luck event after the game and they still can't overturn a team that wins all their matches (ie a grand slam is awarded enough points that any other combinations of wins and bonus points can't beat it)

leave it to knock out competitions where there has to be a winner on each game and only after we've attempted to resolve it with extra time
 
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Nope. Absolutely no reason to trial it - draws are a perfectly valid result in league football.
 
I sometimes like the idea that a 0-0 is zero points for both sides, whereas a score draw is a point a piece, but since that again would only favour the big teams, I'm not so sure.

The only thing football needs updating with is getting rid of VAR.

I used to agree with that 0-0 idea years ago but older I've got the more I disagree with it. There's a certain art form to going away and playing for a goalless draw.