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If we have 4th in the bag and Hull need a point I can see us giving them it. Maybe not 3 but I could see us shaking hands on a draw. The reason being, with Phelan at that club, I can see United and Hull doing a deal to send some of our youngsters on loan there in future, if they're given PL experience it's great for us.

Like if 'Boro get up from the Championship, they'll get as many as possible from Chelsea due to Mourinho's relationship with Karanka.

At this rate though, I'd imagine we will need something from that game, whether we can take it is another debate.

If United beat Arsenal they could be going for 2nd or 3rd place couldn't they ...... dunno the other fixtures other than we play Arsenal.
Would they stab the loanees in the back by relegating Hull?
 
I remember when we went down against Wimbledon at Selhurst on the last day, They basically invited us on to save ourselves but we were that **** we couldn't save ourselves. Ended up losing 1-0 to a young Carl Court out to make a name for himself. There's no doubt in my mind Wimbledon tried to assist us that day and there's no doubt in my mind this has happened many times since


****ing aweful day, that was..
 
The idea of clubs helping each other out goes back a long way. Does anyone remember the 1957-58 season? In April, I got to Roker about ten minutes late for the game against Birmingham City, I asked a guy if there was any score yet and he replied 'Three-nil down mate'! I wouldn't believe it till another guy confirmed it. Birmingham, at that time, had a forward line full of speed merchants. They were brilliant that day, and eventually beat us 6 - 1. Our last game was away to Portsmouth, whilst our main rivals for relegation, Leicester, were at home to ... Birmingham! Having seen Birmingham a few weeks earlier, we knew there was no way in the world Leicester could beat them. So if we could just win at Portsmouth, we would preserve our precious 'never relegated' status. We won 2 - 0 at Pompey. Great. And then the news came through - Leicester City 1, Birmingham City 0 !!! Sixty-eight years in the top division had finished. Harry Hooper, a north-east lad who played for Birmingham that day, and later signed for Sunderland, said some years later "I was the only one in the Birmingham side that bothered playing that day". One Midland side had helped another. One of the most miserable days I can ever remember. I was only a teenager. I couldn't even think Division 2. What the hell did Division 2 mean? It had never happened before. What was it? And look at us now - Division 2 is commonplace! There's no comprehending how far this club's come down.
 
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If United beat Arsenal they could be going for 2nd or 3rd place couldn't they ...... dunno the other fixtures other than we play Arsenal.
Would they stab the loanees in the back by relegating Hull?

That's a different scenario altogether mate, if we can achieve 3rd by beating Hull rest assured we would never go there looking for anything but a win. Not having to qualify for the Champions League would be an added bonus for us.

Trouble is, Arsenal seem to be able to convert chances, unlike us. Rooney's been dropped deep again, after finding a winning formula with him up front, it just seems sometimes that his 'philosophy' is more important than winning... sound familiar?
 
That was the day I realised a trip home from London after going down is a lot longer than a trip home from London after losing at Wembley. :(


i was there that day, but only had to travel back to surrey...seemed a long way....

dreadful day.