He said that 2 weeks ago. I don't know what's changed that he has to repeat it.
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He said that 2 weeks ago. I don't know what's changed that he has to repeat it.
David Moyes says he has effectively rejected Everton’s£18 million offer for Lamine Kone, insisting the Ivorian will stay at Sunderland on account of the potential difficulty in replacing him before the summer transfer window closes next Wednesday.
But the Black Cats boss admits that any club seeking to rise up from the lower reaches of the Premier League must sell to facilitate the rebuilding process he has planned.
Kone has turned down a promised contract improvement at the Stadium of Light, and claims a back injury forced him to miss Sunday’s home defeat to Middlesbrough.
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Told to stay away from the club over the weekend, he was due back at the Academy of Light for treatment on Tuesday, only for an illness to his daughter to delay his return.
He is now expected back on Wednesday, though not to play against Shrewsbury Town in the EFL Cup.
Lamine Kone of Sunderland
And Moyes said: “I’ve said all along Kone will stay.
“I’ve had that offer for a while now and I could have invested that money two weeks ago, but that’s very difficult.
“It’s very difficult to invest in players given the prices, in terms of who you can get for your money, and what you can get for your money.
“It will be very difficult to replace Lamine.
“I have not changed my view from ‘Day one’. We have an offer. But until we were able to get close to a suitable replacement, I would never do the deal.
“I did not expect to go to this level from the boy.”
Asked to confirm that Everton’s bid has been rejected, Moyes said: “By me, yes.
“There’s been an offer there, I’ve never said if it was accepted or rejected. I just said that there was an offer there but I’ve said Kone is staying.”
Yet pressed on how to change the cycle of struggle at Sunderland, Moyes did admit that some players may have to be sold.
“I do believe that on a club’s journey you have to sell players,” he said.
Sunderland manager David Moyes
“On a journey from nearer the bottom of the league to the top you have to sell players because as a club is improving, your players will be improving and there will be some big clubs come and pluck them as you go along.
“I speak from experience on that.
“We’re only starting the journey and people will come and take players. Sometimes you do have to sell players to take in the money, to reinvest and build again and build again, and actually that’s how I would look to build the club.
“But on this occasion I’ve come in with two or three weeks of the window left, not long to go. It’s not a long time to sell one and then go and find all your other things in what we’ve already said is a difficult market.”
But the Black Cats boss admits that any club seeking to rise up from the lower reaches of the Premier League must sell to facilitate the rebuilding process he has planned.
Kone has turned down a promised contract improvement at the Stadium of Light, and claims a back injury forced him to miss Sunday’s home defeat to Middlesbrough.
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Told to stay away from the club over the weekend, he was due back at the Academy of Light for treatment on Tuesday, only for an illness to his daughter to delay his return.
He is now expected back on Wednesday, though not to play against Shrewsbury Town in the EFL Cup.
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2016 Sunderland AFCLamine Kone of Sunderland
And Moyes said: “I’ve said all along Kone will stay.
“I’ve had that offer for a while now and I could have invested that money two weeks ago, but that’s very difficult.
“It’s very difficult to invest in players given the prices, in terms of who you can get for your money, and what you can get for your money.
“It will be very difficult to replace Lamine.
“I have not changed my view from ‘Day one’. We have an offer. But until we were able to get close to a suitable replacement, I would never do the deal.
“I did not expect to go to this level from the boy.”
Asked to confirm that Everton’s bid has been rejected, Moyes said: “By me, yes.
“There’s been an offer there, I’ve never said if it was accepted or rejected. I just said that there was an offer there but I’ve said Kone is staying.”
Yet pressed on how to change the cycle of struggle at Sunderland, Moyes did admit that some players may have to be sold.
“I do believe that on a club’s journey you have to sell players,” he said.
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Sunderland manager David Moyes
“On a journey from nearer the bottom of the league to the top you have to sell players because as a club is improving, your players will be improving and there will be some big clubs come and pluck them as you go along.
“I speak from experience on that.
“We’re only starting the journey and people will come and take players. Sometimes you do have to sell players to take in the money, to reinvest and build again and build again, and actually that’s how I would look to build the club.
“But on this occasion I’ve come in with two or three weeks of the window left, not long to go. It’s not a long time to sell one and then go and find all your other things in what we’ve already said is a difficult market.”
I think that's what he is saying. If he could buy better players with the Kone money he would, but as no one is available he won't sell. Seems sensible to me.
18m for Kone - not enough as there is no replacement
4m for Kaboul - go on then lad, let me pack your bags for you
Can't help but feel that after 4 months of playing it's too quick to assume he's worth this or more and you could get 2-3 players for 18m. Ideally that money would come in through the yank anyway of course...
4m for Kaboul - go on then lad, let me pack your bags for you
Can't help but feel that after 4 months of playing it's too quick to assume he's worth this or more and you could get 2-3 players for 18m. Ideally that money would come in through the yank anyway of course...
Even if we did get 18 m for Kone, what would happen, would we make a marquee signing or would the money disappear along with the £100m Sky money.?
Moyes is in the press this morning saying that we can't compete financially with our rivals, why not ?
What is happening to all this money, I realise that the gate money is peanuts in today's game but surely it must make some difference getting crowds of 40,000 plus every home game, how can Bournemouth and Crystal Palace survive if we can't even compete?
Moyes is in the press this morning saying that we can't compete financially with our rivals, why not ?
What is happening to all this money, I realise that the gate money is peanuts in today's game but surely it must make some difference getting crowds of 40,000 plus every home game, how can Bournemouth and Crystal Palace survive if we can't even compete?
Our problem seems to be wages. Short has invested over 100m into the club since he bought it. He has essentially written that debt off in the sense that he will get the money back IF he sells the club as a profit.
I don't think investment has been our problem it's been **** signings, **** contracts, bad financial management off the field even worse football management on it.
Even if we sold Kone for 18m by the time we paid agents fees, loyalty bonuses (a joke I know) and a % to his former club we would only have about 10m left which would not buy a replacement.
I don't think investment has been our problem it's been **** signings, **** contracts, bad financial management off the field even worse football management on it.
Even if we sold Kone for 18m by the time we paid agents fees, loyalty bonuses (a joke I know) and a % to his former club we would only have about 10m left which would not buy a replacement.
£18m doesn't get you to 2-3 players anymore unless you get rubbish, Jordon Ibe cost Bournmouth £15m for **** sake! I'd accept no less than £30m personally, still be annoyed considering Everton sold Stones for £50m.
Last window, not this window mate. Double those prices with this window and it would have cost us just shy of 30m.
Far from convinced they have gone up by that sort of amount. Last summer they'd already risen quite a it in preparation and January is usually dearer than the Summer:
Ibe was 15m but Bournemouth spent 11.5m on Mings last year who was even less experienced. Indeed a host of average British players went for over 10m (Shelvey, Chester, Naismith, Delph and Conner Whickam (not sure fee on him)). Most notably Townsend went for a similar price this summer to that in January, there are other factors there but despite a cracking end to the season I don't think his value will have doubled.
Raheem was around 50m ffs.
One thing to remember is that an lot of the big money is based on the sale of Stones, this has given Everton money to pay Palace which they have given to Liverpool. All big money deals but all dependant on one sale. Yes it has pushed up what clubs are asking for but in reality not many clubs are spending more than they are bringing in in transfers. We have not had any big money sales so no real money to spend.
As far as the TV money goes I thought that this comes in over the season so it is not available just now.
As far as the TV money goes I thought that this comes in over the season so it is not available just now.
It's Wickham.
Even after death, he is still miss spelled.
Post-humus apologies Wycombe is a player I mostly ignore.
Ok, Townsend left a Championship side with a release clause, not really comparable as the fee was set before the inflation kicked in. Chester, Shelvey, Chester, Naismith, Delph and Connor Whickam, none of them moved this window so not sure why you're even mentioning them. Plus comparing players directly just doesn't work as different circumstances effect fees.
If your opinion is it isn't fair do's but your reasoning doesn't make sense to me.
I'll take each player on it's own merits. Ibe is more a 7.5m player than a 15m player to me. We've played 8m for a Chelsea reserve who they paid 2.7m for less than a year ago and he barely kicked a ball for them, 1 game he played in fact. Things like that tell me inflation has doubled the value on players. Not comparing Ibe and Mings, different players from different culbs with different circumstances. You don't think it has, fair do's but you won't convince me with your way of thinking.