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Vincemac

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I feel I need to start this thread
What about all those fans on this forum.
: we need to get relegated to the championship so we can win more games regroup and get promoted:
They did not take into account we would have a weaker team.
Ok then what you going to say now
:let’s get relegated into the first division and win more games:
The morel of the story is
We must and always do our best to play in the premiership
 
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Vincemac said:
I feel I need to start this thread
What about all those fans on this forum.
: we need to get relegated to the championship so we can win more games regroup and get promoted:
They did not take into account we would have a weaker team.
Ok then what you going to say now
:let’s get relegated into the first division and win more games:
The morel of the story is
We must and always do our best to play in the premiership
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We need to go into administration to
  1. get rid of Short
  2. clear the debt
  3. get rid of the dross
  4. start again
but hopefully Short finds a buyer and CC performs a minor miracle this season.
 
RTB said:
We need to go into administration to
  1. get rid of Short
  2. clear the debt
  3. get rid of the dross
  4. start again
but hopefully Short finds a buyer and CC performs a minor miracle this season.
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But it has to be now or we are gone into the first division
Anyway if there was administration we would automatically get relegated
 
I give it another 2 or 3 weeks before Short puts into Administration..we are odds on to go down now....why not, take the points hit when we are pretty much doomed.
 
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Vincemac said:
I feel I need to start this thread
What about all those fans on this forum.
: we need to get relegated to the championship so we can win more games regroup and get promoted:
They did not take into account we would have a weaker team.
Ok then what you going to say now
:let’s get relegated into the first division and win more games:
The morel of the story is
We must and always do our best to play in the premiership
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Was imperative we didn't get relegated. Think Short was thinking it was a way to cut the wage bill(true enough) and easy to bounce back(****ing mad man.)
 
I thought we'd be doing better than this, the standard of the league is quite poor and I thought we'd be ok. We still might be to be fair if we can add size and strength to the team with a few canny loans.

We aren't down and in administration yet lads. Only a few points away from escaping relegation and what I saw in the first half looked promising if we can add a couple of attackers in this window and strengthen elsewhere.
 
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Want to put Bain into the mix here as well. That f8cker needs to go as well. I know on this site some people thinks the sun shines out his ass but he has been a complete disaster. Give him a bone on the Coleman appointment but since he came to the club total freefall. He came in on the back of Big Sam building a decent squad....the rest is history. I wonder if he is still taking advice from Moyes and Smith....let's get another trip to New York organized...a jolly boys outing.....yep lay a few more off to pay for that......ffs. As a finance guy it was imperative we stayed in the Premier League because of the income. Spend money to make money...last January sealed our fate and clearly it was well we will drop into the Championship restructure and come straight back up. Last Summer spending 1.5 million on 10 players...great Mr Bain to but look where the f*ck we are now. Pay peanuts you get monkey's. Short as we know has to accept ultimate responsiblility because Bain was his appointment but this just sums up Short. Never got it right off the pitch.....
 
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Vincemac said:
I feel I need to start this thread
What about all those fans on this forum.
: we need to get relegated to the championship so we can win more games regroup and get promoted:
They did not take into account we would have a weaker team.
Ok then what you going to say now
:let’s get relegated into the first division and win more games:
The morel of the story is
We must and always do our best to play in the premiership
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What if you don't want to play in the Premiership?
 
LAMackem said:
Want to put Bain into the mix here as well. That f8cker needs to go as well. I know on this site some people thinks the sun shines out his ass but he has been a complete disaster. Give him a bone on the Coleman appointment but since he came to the club total freefall. He came in on the back of Big Sam building a decent squad....the rest is history. I wonder if he is still taking advice from Moyes and Smith....let's get another trip to New York organized...a jolly boys outing.....yep lay a few more off to pay for that......ffs. As a finance guy it was imperative we stayed in the Premier League because of the income. Spend money to make money...last January sealed our fate and clearly it was well we will drop into the Championship restructure and come straight back up. Last Summer spending 1.5 million on 10 players...great Mr Bain to but look where the f*ck we are now. Pay peanuts you get monkey's. Short as we know has to accept ultimate responsiblility because Bain was his appointment but this just sums up Short. Never got it right off the pitch.....
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You're blaming Bain for Short not investing though. How exactly is it Bain's fault that we aren't spending money?
 
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Nacho said:
You're blaming Bain for Short not investing though. How exactly is it Bain's fault that we aren't spending money?
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As I mentioned in the post Short has the ultimate responsibility on the purse strings and everything else. This guy is in there to run the club and get results. That speaks for itself....
 
LAMackem said:
As I mentioned in the post Short has the ultimate responsibility on the purse strings and everything else. This guy is in there to run the club and get results. That speaks for itself....
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Not just the ultimate responsibility, the only responsibility. Unless you're expecting Bain to fund transfers out of his own pocket then our lack of spending has nothing to do with Bain and everything to do with Short.

I don't think Bain is perfect or anything but your viewpoint confuses me.
 
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Nacho said:
Not just the ultimate responsibility, the only responsibility. Unless you're expecting Bain to fund transfers out of his own pocket then our lack of spending has nothing to do with Bain and everything to do with Short.

I don't think Bain is perfect or anything but your viewpoint confuses me.
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My viewpoint is quite clear....Bain is sh*te at his job.....for a supposed football man......
 
Nacho said:
Because we aren't spending money?
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How much did we raise from the money from the sale of Kaboul......the list is f*cking endless with him....can't be arsed with the arguement...Bain is great!!!! He has no responsibility to the mess we are in. Give the lad a 10 year contract...by the end of that we will be in the Northern League.
 
Bain hasn't exactly set the world alight since he's been here but his hands are tied by Short. Some decisions that have been made since he's been running things have been good (e.g. Coleman) and some haven't been so good but he's certainly a big improvement on Maggie Byrne. Either way, Short is the owner and Bain can only work within the limits that Short sets.
 
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LAMackem said:
How much did we raise from the money from the sale of Kaboul......the list is f*cking endless with him....can't be arsed with the arguement...Bain is great!!!! He has no responsibility to the mess we are in. Give the lad a 10 year contract...by the end of that we will be in the Northern League.
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The Kaboul sale was a weird one I'll give you that, surely we could have got more. Generally though considering how poor our squad is/was we've got decent money for our players and new players aren't being overpaid.

Anyway seeing as you blame Bain for us not spending and I blame Short alone we aren't going to see eye to eye on this.
 
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