Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

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realred1952 said:
F*#*K**G C R A Z Y ........... CROSSINGS ON 12TH APRIL 2025 IN POWER 9 MONTHS AND APPROACHING 32,000 [ known or declared ] CROSSED THE CHANNEL the cost us the UK tax payer for accomodation alone is, [this number 686] is circa £39,000,000 ........ for those crossing since July 4th 2025 it is approaching £2,000,000,000 then add on the costs of all the staff and Borderforce costs/ expenses and it is bankruptcy bound for the UK

IT IS NOW MIND BOGGLING FIGURES and imagine what we could do with amount of money .....................
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If only common sense s d looking after British people was the approach we used to tackle and manage a lot of things

Immigration
Policing
Judicial system
Local councils
Education
Net Zero
Civil Service
Oil, Gas and coal reserves under our feet which go unused

instead of dealing with the problem or addressing the root causes, this Government pleads poverty and uses that leverage to make us one of the most highly taxed nations on earth and have one of the worlds most miserable citizens overall
But who’s surprised ?
 
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Immigration ..... totally out of control, in opposition Labour, well 2 tier granny Harmer, was always poo pooing the tory efforts whether they worked or not WITH NO PLAN, themselves on how to deal with it. the only thing that was likely to work and was about to take off was RWANDA. they the 2 tier liar infested present .gov had to get rid of it in days to stop it happening. We are now housing some 100,000 illegals. .GOV puts the onus on cash strapped councils to house half of them...............
Policing
Judicial system ... 2TIER GH is a so called legal expert but the Juducial system is a total mess ... just look at the rioteers in jail ... put there in place of murders and unsavoury crime personages released early to make space for them

Local councils .. mostly labour ones took advantage of tories being in governance and ran up massive bills [ take Bristol for an instance ] now boot is on the other foot!!!!!!
Education
Net Zero Overseen by the biggest plonker in the labour administration ... NO hang on Darren Jones must be asked the same Q ON A NUMBER OIF DIFFERENT PROGRAMMES REGARDING FINANCE !! and from the first time proved to be wrong but still tried it on!
Civil Service
Oil, Gas and coal reserves under our feet which go unused ... the WORLD is still going to use these naturals well into the next 50 years it seems we havent found or used more than a third of of any of them............

Angelic, the one you missed is NHS... A SERIES OF WELL ORCHESTRATED strikes by a supportive labour number of MP's had a devastating effect on the appointments cancelled. About the only thing the present .GOV HAD FORESIGHT OF! .. ... THEY CAN MAKE THE CLAIM NOW .......... we are doing more appointments now than the tories did!!
LETS VERIFY THAT!!! ........... WELL they built up a back log of millions of missed "strike orientated " appointments, and could have been worse had it not been for the Boris time in power when nurses doctors and hospital front line staff was increased by 000's! ..... 2 TIER TAKES THE MAJORITY of the UK population as totally IQ zero's and without a backbone to stand up and fight ...............
 
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realred1952 said:
Immigration ..... totally out of control, in opposition Labour, well 2 tier granny Harmer, was always poo pooing the tory efforts whether they worked or not WITH NO PLAN, themselves on how to deal with it. the only thing that was likely to work and was about to take off was RWANDA. they the 2 tier liar infested present .gov had to get rid of it in days to stop it happening. We are now housing some 100,000 illegals. .GOV puts the onus on cash strapped councils to house half of them...............
Policing
Judicial system ... 2TIER GH is a so called legal expert but the Juducial system is a total mess ... just look at the rioteers in jail ... put there in place of murders and unsavoury crime personages released early to make space for them

Local councils .. mostly labour ones took advantage of tories being in governance and ran up massive bills [ take Bristol for an instance ] now boot is on the other foot!!!!!!
Education
Net Zero Overseen by the biggest plonker in the labour administration ... NO hang on Darren Jones must be asked the same Q ON A NUMBER OIF DIFFERENT PROGRAMMES REGARDING FINANCE !! and from the first time proved to be wrong but still tried it on!
Civil Service
Oil, Gas and coal reserves under our feet which go unused ... the WORLD is still going to use these naturals well into the next 50 years it seems we havent found or used more than a third of of any of them............

Angelic, the one you missed is NHS... A SERIES OF WELL ORCHESTRATED strikes by a supportive labour number of MP's had a devastating effect on the appointments cancelled. About the only thing the present .GOV HAD FORESIGHT OF! .. ... THEY CAN MAKE THE CLAIM NOW .......... we are doing more appointments now than the tories did!!
LETS VERIFY THAT!!! ........... WELL they built up a back log of millions of missed "strike orientated " appointments, and could have been worse had it not been for the Boris time in power when nurses doctors and hospital front line staff was increased by 000's! ..... 2 TIER TAKES THE MAJORITY of the UK population as totally IQ zero's and without a backbone to stand up and fight ...............
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Yes I did forget the NHS - doh !

If there is (God forbid) another horrific incident this Summer then what happened in a few places after Southport will be nationwide

And the Stasi, much though they’d like to, and have the rest of the world roam the country unchecked while we’re rotting in jail, can’t lock eveybody up

The nation is already at simmering point and it really wouldn’t take much

We need a total reset, from national values to the way the economy is run, how taxes are collected and how welfare is only given to those who really need it and doesn’t come with a lifetime of freebies with no need to work for a living, with an almost free car

Things cannot carry on the way they are for much longer
 
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119 on the 14th crossed the channel it means since they took power it is almost 32,000 @ a cost of some £2,200,000,000 plus the cost of all the peripherals like wages maintenance of ships/ boats policing/ etc etc etc

just take the housing and care aspect of the 32,000 ==== it seems paltry amount is over £1 per week for every working person! but think hip operations cost around £15,000 so around next 140,000 hip op's paid for would pay the salaries of 55,000 nurses .... or similar number of police men! ....... thats what our tax payer £1 a week can pay for!
 
my first "spring break" north of the border since labour got in.................. we dont have internet where we stay [ it keeps being voted down as a conversational distraction! ] ..............WELL .............
ABOUT THE ONLY SUBJECT NOT COVERED WAS PUTRID................... the murderer!

Drawn from all parts of the UK mainland [ and 1 from France! ] my how opinions after a few " warm debates " all centred on an agreement.. Granny Harmer and his partners in crime are absolute morons and headless fibbing chickens that are not even fit to enter the food chain!

The biggest certainty was house building........... Massive increases in house building stemming from the end of the tory reign, either started before July 4th 2024 or in pipeline to have been started soon after. 1 person has a ground works /geo exploring/ construction rental business and connections. His comments were very damming......... has had just 5 enquiries since August 2024 for new housing estates / building projects after over 43[?] since Jan 1st 2024 of 18 people all stated as I did that their area was pretty busy with house building in 2024 as a result of Tory "permissions" and a number stated that on going projects are [ started / extending ] result of pre july 4th permissions.
none of those present could point to new builds granted since JULY 4TH .................. 1 a parish councillor did say an estate of 12 houses and one of 30 something residences had been put forward in 2023/24 [?] and was now now subject to permissions to build when fine detail was sorted but actual outline permission was applied in later part of 2024.

so AR WHERE ARE YOUR 1.5 MILLION HOMES before 2029?

condemnations of rattlesnake Reeves should be electrocuted Milliwatt and a few other cabinet members were scathing.. 2 points though were Diane 7/10 & Lammy 5/10 were best of Labour bunch!
 
since January 1st 2024 49,071 [CIRCA ] have crossed the channel at a basic cost of £2.3bn..... just think what the .UK gov could have achieved with just half of that cost bearing in mind we also have to pay out on top of this for the border force and an army of immigration officers probably another £4 - £5bn we could reduce income tax reset all the council tax's ... pay each one a similar amount required to negate the lowest ones debt [ per capita average ].

it seems after last weekends comments they dont give a flying buck on how many cross.............
 
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inflation RISES to 3.5% ..an "expected" jump due to the rising costs envisaged by the mis management of Rattle snake Rach.
Made me laugh when her comment in reply to a Q after the announcement was .. well we are still nowhere near double figures like the Tories were! [ well consider there was a global ave increase of around 5-7% above norm taking the low figure 5% then we halfway there?! BEARING IN MIND THEY INHERITED A STABILISED/ DECREASING RATE of 2% not doing to bad really 1.6% increase in 10 month's ............
 
PMQ's no straight answers a lot of the answers being....

" we inherited this that and the other from the last . GOV" until after the 5th time KEMI stated " again no simple yes or no answer, it is about time you stopped whining about what the so called last .GOV LEFT YOU WITH! which actually was a growing economy and inflation at 2%! "
brushed off current immigration figures [ a new record being set daily ] with " the tories were responsible for record numbers when in power" ......but failed to state that in last 12 month's of Tory rule IMMIGRATION BY SMALL BOATS was dwindling downward to very low levels!
In 2024 there were +37,000 Labour (64%) accounted for 23,500 [ 6 month's each ] with 1 month to go they are on 36,000+
17 month total = tory 17% 6 months, Labour 83% 11 months ...
 
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hotel bills for illegals in past 12 months has exceeded £3,500,000,000 total costs attributed to last 12 month's from 1 report is .... £16,000,000,000 and UK DEBT IS = to £180,000 per capita ..thats half the cost of my house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
A huge row kicked off on GB News over net migration statistics that were published this week showing net migration has fallen from 860,000 in 2023 to 431,000 in 2024.

Barry Gardiner MP [ LABOUR ]said while the Conservatives introduced the measures that have resulted in a fall, they did not enact them.
Whether the Labour Government deserves credit remains a point of contention, but Barry Gardiner MP suggests they are deserving of some recognition.

once again trying to claim " it was us that did it "
 
It’s been a week of Great British giveaways.
On Monday we gave away our sovereignty to the EU in a so-called defence pact which tied ourselves to them

On Tuesday Lucy Connelly, imprisoned for posting an offensive tweet, one which the courts deemed incited racial hatred, had her appeal for a 31 month sentence denied.
Her post was wrong, but if Huw Edwards who was charged with holding sexual images of children and Mike Amesbury, a former Labour MP at the time, who punched a man to the ground.. can avoid jail, then it makes no sense that Lucy should remain behind bars.

On Wednesday, a daily record, Over 800 arrived in small boats, smashing the gangs doesn’t appear to be making any difference.

On Thursday despite best efforts of two Chagossian women, we gave away the Chagos Islands to Mauritius.
The only good thing that happened was Shabana Mamood’s plan that would see *****philes castrated which is actually pretty right wing coming from a labour party, however it would be voluntary.
And inflation is up…

I don’t know about you, but I get the jist why people are calling for another general election.
 
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Good news the Don is giving the EU 50% tariffs and probably as usualwith the trading bloc!!!! they will take the wrong decision to retaliate.

As for his administration, the less said the better apparently it was the Russians that set up the bombing of his house(course it was)
 
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realred1952 said:
It’s been a week of Great British giveaways.
On Monday we gave away our sovereignty to the EU in a so-called defence pact which tied ourselves to them

On Tuesday Lucy Connelly, imprisoned for posting an offensive tweet, one which the courts deemed incited racial hatred, had her appeal for a 31 month sentence denied.
Her post was wrong, but if Huw Edwards who was charged with holding sexual images of children and Mike Amesbury, a former Labour MP at the time, who punched a man to the ground.. can avoid jail, then it makes no sense that Lucy should remain behind bars.

On Wednesday, a daily record, Over 800 arrived in small boats, smashing the gangs doesn’t appear to be making any difference.

On Thursday despite best efforts of two Chagossian women, we gave away the Chagos Islands to Mauritius.
The only good thing that happened was Shabana Mamood’s plan that would see *****philes castrated which is actually pretty right wing coming from a labour party, however it would be voluntary.
And inflation is up…

I don’t know about you, but I get the jist why people are calling for another general election.
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This has to be one of the most unpopular Governments in British history after just 10 months
And whilst they may U turn on winter fuel payments, many of the electorate, including their own supporters, won’t forget when the next GE comes along
 
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as we approach the 1 year anniversary, the height of the "lie upon lie upon lie upon con upon con and deceit of the main players" the 1 main thing that is costing us £bns is a part of the illegal boat crossings [ thats just those the .gov chooses to declare, there are many more crossing the channel!!!!!! ]

with 4 weeks to go since labour took over ... ... 37,039 .. .. have crossed the cost to us annually is [ without the additional staffing of Border force wages / ship maintenance / fuel costs / peripheral items required to collect and get them ashore ] is around £2.5bn ... add to this the other 60 -70,000 being housed and it is approaching £6bn? ....
we are now looking at various rumours of " Granny Harmer out " due to how elected by the "party" Angela Rayner cannot be sacked as second in command! And although she states "no interest in being PM" DONT BET ON THERE NOT being a power move!
 
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most unpopular Governments in British history after just 10 months
And whilst they may U turn on winter fuel payments, many of the electorate, including their own supporters, won’t forget when the next GE comes along
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Granny Harmer wanted just 1 thing, to be elected PM of the UK whether the majority was small or large, a very small majority would have meant all the "non plans he tried to con us with" could likely have had even worse negative results. so could have resigned after a year and called another GE ..................... ???????????
 
1194 no NOT A FAMOUS DATE IN HISTORY but a record in a day illegal boat crossers this 1 day alone adds £750,000,000 to the annual tax bill we all have to pay.
It takes Granny Harmers total allowed in to 38,233 in 11 month's!!!


Illegal annual boat crossings running total by date [landed by borderforce not including by other means trawler/yacht/boat/lorry etc ]
2018 .......... 299
2020 .......... 8,462
2022 .......... 45,755
2024 .......... 36,816
2019 .......... 1,843
2021 .......... 28,526
2023 .......... 29,437
2025 ........... 14991
4-7-2024 to 30-5-2025 ..... Granny Harmer .... 38233 [ 11 month's ]

Daily crossings data prior to 4th April 2023 has been obtained by FOI.
 
The Government came under fire last night [ after PMQ's ] after seeking to take credit for interest rate cuts in the UK.

Rachel Reeves used her spending review to claim her policies have ‘helped support four cuts in interest rates’ by the Bank of England since the election.
It echoed similar comments from Sir Keir Starmer at Prime Minister’s Questions just minutes earlier.
But they faced a backlash from economists.
Simon French, chief economist at City broker Panmure Liberum, said that Labour’s spending may have led to higher interest rates.
Describing himself as ‘uncomfortable with this line from the Chancellor that fiscal policy has supported cutting UK interest rates four times’, he said:
‘Basic economics would have it that looser fiscal policy necessitates tighter monetary policy, all else being equal.’

Rachel Reeves said her policies have ‘helped support four cuts in interest rates’ since the election. It echoed similar comments from Keir Starmer at Prime Minister’s Questions
The former Bank of England rate-setter Andrew Sentance said French’s analysis was ‘absolutely right’ and suggested that the Bank ‘has been over-hasty in cutting rates’.

And Julian Jessop, of the Institute of Economic Affairs, noted that while Starmer ‘is still trying to claim credit for four interest rate cuts’, the European Central Bank ‘has cut interest rates eight times in the past year’.

The Bank’s monetary policy committee is independent and Government ministers have no say in its interest rate decisions.
 
It's a strange game politics. So very often the moves which shape the game are those happening off the ball while all eyes are on the striker. And so it was with Rachel Reeves and her mad-as-a-bag-of-snakes, so-called Spending Review. After a stutteringly catastrophic first year where the ditheringly cautious Keir Starmer attempted a Blairite New Labour centrist approach to the party and the voter, in an attempt to convince us this was a new fiscally prudent Labour, suddenly Rachel Reeves came out yesterday all undergraduate tax and spend class warrior... and rather spoiled Keir's party.

Labour is now in a fight to the death with, er, a party with a grand total of five MPs. And even more bizarrely Nigel Farage, a man who has spent his political life being accused of being to the right of Goebbels, is apparently now the new Jeremy Corbyn with an appetite for nationalising anything which is not nailed down and a manifesto which can be roughly conveyed in three words "spend spend spend".

It's a fight over the Red Wall vote you see. Because both parties think the Red Wall - that's probably you by the way - is a bit thick, eminently biddable, easily bought off. It's a very dangerous assumption. Not only did Reeves go through her fantasy review like a child going over their Christmas list, but she was mendacious with it. She talked of wages on the rise.

And they are, marginally, but this is because her leader chose to give massive pay rises to people who don't actually create wealth (ie everyone who votes Labour train drivers etc ) and will not increase productivity one jot. But it does falsely inflate the nation's wage levels though so Reeves can claim pay is going up. It isn't...................... unless you are an orthopaedic consultant or a train driver. The other current ridiculous deception trotted out with depressing predictability by both Starmer and Reeves and every rabbit-in-headlights junior minister rolled out for TV duties is that Britain has the highest growth rate in the G7.
It does. But only because the economies of the other six nations are currently basket-cases, put in perspective, Britain's growth this year will be marginally smaller than Russia's. Yes that Russia, the one that is no longer in the G7, is fighting a three-year war and facing crippling economic worldwide sanctions.

But all you have to do in politics is bide your time and wait for everyone else to screw-up. And indeed Kemi was at her best at Prime Minister's Questions yesterday, annihilating the Prime Minister with a consummate ease which has deserted her in recent weeks. She was right on the money - your money as it goes - asking over and over if Starmer was about to raise taxes. He is. There is no other fiscal wiggle room. The problem with socialism, as Margaret Thatcher pointed out, is that you eventually run out of other people's money. And when that happens the Labour Party only has three big sticks to wield. And they are all marked TAX

 
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