Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

[realred1952]

THE 2025 floodgates !
HOWEVER........... WHO is telling lies then 2 tier granny Harmer says since labour ncame to power they have deported 19,000 + The times article using government facts figures [open to all ] give the facts
total removla for 2024 were less than 10,000 not 19,000!
why dont the opposition pick up on these lies some of research sort of pointed to a lower number of deported. Plan now is to do what tories did ... yep follow the same idea ... but using places 1000 miles away but in detention camps that cost less than here! .............

According to The Times, Labour hopes the threat of being relocated to an offshore centre will discourage migrants from making dangerous crossings and reduce pressure on the UK's asylum accommodation system, where more than 38,000 people are currently living in hotels.
In recent years, more than 85,000 asylum seekers have reached the end of the appeal process, but only around 20,000 have been removed. Last year, removals increased to 9,151 - a 36% rise on 2023.

 

[realred1952]

Local authorities are warning the situation is creating significant pressure on housing markets, schools, community cohesion and other local services.
The Home Office has a policy of trying to ensure the number of asylum seekers in any area is no more than one for every 200 local residents, known as the "cluster limit".
However, Middlesbrough Council has warned the average figure for the authority as a whole could be much higher in specific wards, leading to housing shortages and conflict.

1 for every 200 residents assuming based on over 18's population they are [ .gov ] happy to house 250,000 bearing in mind the cost, for costs and benefits paid is around ave of £700 pw thats around £10,000.000.000 + for all attributes relating that is about a third of the money they allow for the police force

 

[Angelicnumber16]

Local authorities are warning the situation is creating significant pressure on housing markets, schools, community cohesion and other local services.
The Home Office has a policy of trying to ensure the number of asylum seekers in any area is no more than one for every 200 local residents, known as the "cluster limit".
However, Middlesbrough Council has warned the average figure for the authority as a whole could be much higher in specific wards, leading to housing shortages and conflict.

1 for every 200 residents assuming based on over 18's population they are [ .gov ] happy to house 250,000 bearing in mind the cost, for costs and benefits paid is around ave of £700 pw thats around £10,000.000.000 + for all attributes relating that is about a third of the money they allow for the police force

And it’s all avoidable
But there is no political will to tackle this bead on
Or we could make the French do the job that we’re paying them a vast amount of money for !

 

[realred1952]

335 yesterday crossed since JULY 4th 2024 that is a "known" [ or all they wish to publish, bearing mind every day on vehicles and other small craft transport unknown numbers ]
The grand total so far for ..... 29, 269 in 262 days that is an average of 112 per day so every day [ circa ] £20,000 is stripped from hard earned taxes workers pay that could provide better health care / hospitals / winter heating...................

 

[Angelicnumber16]

What absolutely boils my piss is that a large proportion of the new homes being promised by Labour may well go to migrants
Another example of Brits being second class citizens
If that doesn’t make people want change I don’t know what will

 

[Redprintt]

Rachel Reeves has ring fenced all the money to house migrants in UK hotels.....so no cuts there tomorrow in her fiscal statement to the house.
Yet she's cut the winter fuel payment for pensioners and cuts are forecast for the disabled.

What a sad embittered woman.

 

[realred1952]

RATTLESNAKES WRIGGLE DAY ... A COVER UP?

FIRST rip off claims Labour responsible for 3 interest rates lowering in their 9 month's ...well first 2 were based on THE DRAG of the month,s prior to date of application so only whilst in their tenure!

 

[realred1952]

Starmer looks interested ........... really! NO looks bored and uninterested

 

[realred1952]

nhs waiting lists down .. of course they are ..no strikes and month's of strikes pre GE built up the backlog so doing the norm will get rid of the backlog plus rememember under tories more NHS had been added to the work force ..........

 

[realred1952]

well in a nutshell ..... rattlesnake delivered everything in a way that that tried to mesmerise us with her omnipotence as "I can do do no wrong"

She quoted the OBR but instead of accepting the real reasoning behind each thing that had gone wrong she used snippets from pre July 4th to qualify [ most were because of tory errors in her eyes ] the reasoning...
case in Q ............. OBR stated forcast growth was cut fro 2% down to 1% since labour has been in power. She didnt actually accept that the UK was the strongest growth contender of the G7 @ July 2024 .... although in one of later than July tirades [Aug / Sept: ] she stated said how good we were in the growth deparment. Instead she referred back to Liz Truss blimp / tory trashing economy / present climate world wide [ trump chaos! ] when actually her budget has done what was forcast by the financial Whizz kids ....... and crashed belief... increased prices ... increased borrowing ..... etc .. .. it wasnt me!

house building almost a year in power now and so far, as the tory catalogue of building projects ceases, Labour is supposed to have new /some built or had on the books the next [ first of their promised 1.5 million houses ] 300,000 ! it seems for the first year they are already down 200,000 .. so need now to build 300,000 per annum for 2026/27/28/29!

there was a a very quick reference to how many deported no longer using the 19,000 or even the true number deported since July 2024! just since in power a record number ...compared to what!
HOSPITAL WAITING LISTS 2 million extra... well had they not backed the strikes and built up a backlog there would not have been 2 million to have been extra!

the £9,000,000,000 safety net that was there in July [ all on paper till after April 2025 ] HAS BEEN WIPED OUT by the OBR to a negative £- 14.000,000,000 ... a very tentative approach by the OBR states [ON PAPER] her HOPES by doing what she has done juggled welfare / tightened /ministerial budgets / etc MIGHT mean in 2029 THE £9,000,000,000 COULD MAYBE BE RESTORED!

Smoke and mirrors chaps...............

 

[Angelicnumber16]

But the fact remains that we wouldn’t have to endure this awful, incompetent and clueless Government had the Tories not failed the UK over many many aspects of their 14 years in charge
I find it pathetic that Labour have abandoned their own principles and have become the Tories 2.0

 

[Redprintt]

Morning Angelic, I agree with most of your comment but for......nobody in their right mind, even the Tories, would increase employers NI contributions AND expect growth.
For the life of me I'll never understand hitting the poorest and disabled and ring fencing monies for hotels accommodating economic migrants who turn up on the south coast.
The opposition should be shouting this from the rooftops.....perhaps they are but you won't see/hear it on the BBC.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

Morning Angelic, I agree with most of your comment but for......nobody in their right mind, even the Tories, would increase employers NI contributions AND expect growth.
For the life of me I'll never understand hitting the poorest and disabled and ring fencing monies for hotels accommodating economic migrants who turn up on the south coast.
The opposition should be shouting this from the rooftops.....perhaps they are but you won't see/hear it on the BBC.

You mean the migrants that Two Tier Kier promised wouldn't be coming in record numbers like they are now ?

 

[realred1952]

The opposition should be shouting this from the rooftops.....perhaps they are but you won't see/hear it on the BBC.

in the various media streams there is a lot "bits" rather than a full on exposure of the labour s "smoke and mirrors" and also on the actual history of the tory terms in power since 2010. There are some really balanced articles defining the problems caused some things to be over bloated, a sort of media admission that they had nothing else to write home about so used "embellishments to enhance little things into a media and Labour feeding frenzy"

most of these articles in all sorts of streams be it general or financial news or even the odd one pertaining to the history of recent UK HISTORY the end result of tory rule, [ July 4th 2024 ] when everything had been in 90% of the best [ only ] way possible [ austerity ] to alleviate the the real record BLACK HOLE left by a previous .gov, via an extended austerity, actually less painful! was at an on going UPHILL course on July 3rd 2024 ...............

Labour deceit and lies have gotten us to the present point ...........they never answer a question .............. they state they are blameless .............. they have most of their ministers as 3rd rate politicians [ not had any experience of their posts }... in fact embellish their CV's to get a chance of the job!!!!! most departments are singular ... not part of what is needed , part of a team so actually leaderless.

when RATTLESNAKE gave her address 2TIER GRANNY HARMER sat there with a disinterested posture of gloom body language was it seemed of one knowing it was apair of " hairy shaped kiwi fruit in a bag"
At the end he seemed like some one that had been in the land of the fairies, probably wondering when the next freebie would arrive, and sprung back to reality Rattlesnake had finished ... his doom and gloom changed to a mr happy face as he suddenly sprung back to life ............ his solace is " I am not to blame if it goes tits up... she is " .....

 

[realred1952]

You mean the migrants that Two Tier Kier promised wouldn't be coming in record numbers like they are now ?

17 days out of 25 full boat loads in march ............ 4993 ....... ave 294 per day .... cost to tax payer averaging £400,000 + [ all costs ships staff fuel staff transport etc ] to process ............

ON TARGET for another annual bill of £1,500,000,000 .................. plus ............. ships staff fuel etc etc etc

 

[Redprintt]

Pre last years general election all we heard from Starmer and co 'is my government will smash the gangs'.
What happened ?
Where's Cooper now ?

The Tories deserved to lose the election but Starmer and co are beyond useless.
They've hammered pensioners and the disabled.....Wedgie is turning in his grave.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

17 days out of 25 full boat loads in march ............ 4993 ....... ave 294 per day .... cost to tax payer averaging £400,000 + [ all costs ships staff fuel staff transport etc ] to process ............

ON TARGET for another annual bill of £1,500,000,000 .................. plus ............. ships staff fuel etc etc etc

It's ok, they'll raise our taxes to pay for it and will disrupt peaceful local communities who will be over run with foreigners with nothing to do, the same as what happened in Winford and the Holiday Inn on the A38 past the Airport where locals took matters into their own hands.

 

[realred1952]

LABOUR HAS NO CLUE AND THE PUPPET MASTERS ARE SHUTTING DOWN THE INDUSTRY....

News of the closures at Scunthorpe comes hours after Jingye rejected an offer of £500m from the Government to help it switch to green energy. The Chinese steel group is understood to have told ministers it wanted £1bn to switch to electric arc furnaces, the net zero-friendly technology for recycling steel.

Ben Houchen, the Tees Valley mayor, warned Britain was “less safe” as a result of British Steel’s decision and claimed unions had “wrecked” efforts to rescue the blast furnaces by pushing their own “unworkable plan”.

LABOUR IS QUITE HAPPY TO SQUANDER
£10,000,000,000 PLUS all the extra money £xxbn for the infrastructure allowing boat people to land.......... but not happy to spend
£500,000 on securing steel making in the UK

UNIONS WORKING PRACTICES nails in the coffin?

 

[realred1952]

just a thought on financing the steel mill need to find £500,000 extra ... not a lot really

2,700 job losses [ plus supply chain losses ] == lets say thats 2700 x workers loss of income tax! Lets say they earn £600 per week pay tax on £300 pw = 2700 x 60 = 162 or more than the missing £500,000 in the first 4 weeks of closure

of course add in the supply chain losses of income tax and its likely just 2 weeks of ............. Rattlesnake and Darren Jones ... HOW COME YOU RUN THE PURSE STRINGS ............

 

[Angelicnumber16]

just a thought on financing the steel mill need to find £500,000 extra ... not a lot really

2,700 job losses [ plus supply chain losses ] == lets say thats 2700 x workers loss of income tax! Lets say they earn £600 per week pay tax on £300 pw = 2700 x 60 = 162 or more than the missing £500,000 in the first 4 weeks of closure

of course add in the supply chain losses of income tax and its likely just 2 weeks of ............. Rattlesnake and Darren Jones ... HOW COME YOU RUN THE PURSE STRINGS ............

We’ve stopped manufacturing virtually everything
We had a good steel business but now it’s too heavily regulated by green laws
We had a good car producing reputation but the unions ruined British Leyland and we sold all of our top marques (Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin etc) to foreign countries and companies likeVW
We don’t produce as much oil or gas as we should despite there being vast amounts of it under the North Sea to cheaply power this country for decades to come. But no, we'd rather let idiots like Milliband dictate what happens rather than letting common sense prevail.
We had two oil refineries but we now have only one
We’re trying to be virtuous and green, but the idiots in charge don’t realise we’re having to import everything which is far more expensive, and makes us vulnerable in terms of energy security, plus it's hardly green !!
We’ve whittled our armed forces down to bare bones over the last few decades
The warped idealogical goals and views of the elite establishment in all aspects of public life are running the country into the ground, both economically and morally

Brits are now second class citizens
The guilty are now the victims
One in 4 Brits now consider themselves disabled
20% of working age people chose not to work as the benefits are so good