I'm not but for them to charge for grooming that means the evidence is there I.e texts, messages etc
How does it mean that? It may, it may not, how do you know?
I'm not but for them to charge for grooming that means the evidence is there I.e texts, messages etc
How does it mean that? It may, it may not, how do you know?
His only defence is that someone else sent them.
Haway man!
He should be suspended with pay until the outcome of the trial.
I'd imagine he'll go not guilty and hope his top barrister can sprinkle some doubt on it at court.
Just using legal logic.
How else would they authorise charge on grooming without substantial evidence?
He can deny meeting her etc if there's no physical evidence but that grooming charge is damming

Sent what? These text messages that you've decided exists and is concrete evidence which proves his guilt? You're deciding evidence man. How ridiculous is that?
Michael Le Vell faced 12 sex offences charges including 5 of child rape, there wasn't a shred of 'concrete' evidence, it was a public interest case so the charges were in line with the accusation with nothing substantial what so ever, how do you know the same thing hasn't happened here? I'll answer, you don't, you're just making this up as you're going along and deciding he's guilty in the process.
I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty. I'm saying you know **** all and you know it.
I'd wouldn't have lifted the suspension in the first place but that's nowt to do with details of the case and more to do with upholding the clubs reputation in a situation it didn't invite.
Exactly - you're guessing, like you are in Johnsons case.Michael Lavell id hazard a guess those charges were their word against his. His legal team obviously did enough to show reasonable doubt.
A grooming charge however they wouldn't have charged him just based on her saying
"Aye he was texting me asking to meet up"
They'd have needed to have been shown the proof.
If there was no evidence of him messaging her and trying to organise meeting they'd never have gotten the grooming charge.

Michael Lavell id hazard a guess those charges were their word against his. His legal team obviously did enough to show reasonable doubt.
A grooming charge however they wouldn't have charged him just based on her saying
"Aye he was texting me asking to meet up"
They'd have needed to have been shown the proof.
If there was no evidence of him messaging her and trying to organise meeting they'd never have gotten the grooming charge.

Exactly - you're guessing, like you are in Johnsons case.
God help any poor **** up on trial with you on the jury.
You'd have the poor bastard hung, drawn & quartered before you even got to court.
****ing divvy.![]()

Exactly - you're guessing, like you are in Johnsons case.
God help any poor **** up on trial with you on the jury.
You'd have the poor bastard hung, drawn & quartered before you even got to court.
****ing divvy.![]()
Why not? So they would charge Micheal Lavell based on allegations alone but not AJ? What do you base that on?
Grooming isn't even based on correspondence it's based on him knowing her age. So her saying he knew her age is an accusation which like in the Micheal Lavell case, could be the sole reason for the charge. An accusation.
For all you know she's claiming that she told him before intercourse and there isn't any record of grooming in these Text messages your so fixated on.
For all you know the CP are claiming that he must have known her age after posing for a picture with her after a fan meet and greet. The picture that The Sun published where they pixelated her face, his response could be he doesn't remember her, he's done a million fan pictures.
You don't know, you just don't know. You're claiming he's obviously guilty on your bizarre twisted hunches.![]()
Blah, blah, ****ity blah.Not at all. I'mjust using my logic to form the basis of my opinion.
Grooming charge will be hard to contest really.
The 3 other charges he can just flat out deny and hope his barrister can show some doubt to it.
There'll be correspondence that show he knew her age and iniatiated a meeting regardless. Hence being charged.
If there was nowt he wouldn't have been charged with grooming.
They wouldn't have charged him for grooming off a fan photo would they,or her word with nothing backing it up.

Of course innocent people have been found guilty and guilty people found innocent so anything could happen at court.
It would appear he'll go not guilty at magistrates so we'll see.
Michael Jackson was never found guilty in a court of law but does anyone really think he was innocent?

Why would he plead not guilty if there's 'concrete' evidence from text messages which proves he knew her age? It would guarantee him maximum sentence. Think about it man.![]()