Joe Hart

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matth_22

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According to Clive Tyldesley, He was 'brave ' for saving Ronaldinho's penalty tonight, **** off, he's overrated, it was a routine save, god sake he saved a penalty, not go to war, i can't stand the media and the press ****ing over him, **** sake.
 
matth_22 said:
According to Clive Tyldesley, He was 'brave ' for saving Ronaldinho's penalty tonight, **** off, he's overrated, it was a routine save, god sake he saved a penalty, not go to war, i can't stand the media and the press ****ing over him, **** sake.
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Penalty save was good, follow-up save was brave (instinctive) but brave.
 
If it was a city fan saying that about de Gea he would've been called bitter would he not?
The press in this country build up Hart as the best thing since sliced bread which he clearly isn't,his distribution is very poor for a top class keeper and he makes plenty of mistakes but he's young and has a good future ahead of him. De Gea is at a similar level,also has great potential but has a mistake in him like most young keepers.
The difference between them is the medias version,not helped by Neville's unfair attack on him,which looks to highlight any flaw possible
Neither will be at their peak for another half a dozen years or so but in this country the media have decided to let hart get there far easier
That's not harts fault
 
Paulpowersleftfoot said:
If it was a city fan saying that about de Gea he would've been called bitter would he not?
The press in this country build up Hart as the best thing since sliced bread which he clearly isn't,his distribution is very poor for a top class keeper and he makes plenty of mistakes but he's young and has a good future ahead of him. De Gea is at a similar level,also has great potential but has a mistake in him like most young keepers.
The difference between them is the medias version,not helped by Neville's unfair attack on him,which looks to highlight any flaw possible
Neither will be at their peak for another half a dozen years or so but in this country the media have decided to let hart get there far easier
That's not harts fault
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Hart's made more mistakes than De Gea this season.
 
Probably has but hart will be given the opportunity to improve with time
I don't think De Gea will be afforded that luxury
Still think he will be in the world top few keepers before long and first choice for Spain,he's technically very good
 
Paulpowersleftfoot said:
Probably has but hart will be given the opportunity to improve with time
I don't think De Gea will be afforded that luxury
Still think he will be in the world top few keepers before long and first choice for Spain,he's technically very good
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De Gea`s problem is that sub-conciously people are judging him against Van der sar and the great Dane when he is only just out of nappie`s (even Neville who played along-side both of them).
 
Paulpowersleftfoot said:
Probably has but hart will be given the opportunity to improve with time
I don't think De Gea will be afforded that luxury
Still think he will be in the world top few keepers before long and first choice for Spain,he's technically very good
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If SAF was planning on replacing De Gea he would have done it in January. There is no way he would have allowed De Gea to play the rest of the season if he didn't have faith in him:biggrin:
 
King Shergar said:
If SAF was planning on replacing De Gea he would have done it in January. There is no way he would have allowed De Gea to play the rest of the season if he didn't have faith in him:biggrin:
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This, we would regret selling him like we did with Pique.
 
Diego said:
De Gea`s problem is that sub-conciously people are judging him against Van der sar and the great Dane when he is only just out of nappie`s (even Neville who played along-side both of them).
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Rubbish

people are judging him on his world class saves v embarrassing mistakes

he has plenty of both

He's got bi-polar keeper disorder.

The good side is he's capable of truly world class shot stopping. Properly %)&^ing brilliant goalkeeping.
The bad side is his mistakes and mortal terror of commanding his area are probably on a par with things you'd see from a year 5 girl's school keeper.

He's an enigma.
 
matth_22 said:
According to Clive Tyldesley, He was 'brave ' for saving Ronaldinho's penalty tonight, **** off, he's overrated, it was a routine save, god sake he saved a penalty, not go to war, i can't stand the media and the press ****ing over him, **** sake.
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I don't really understand why anyone thinks joe is overrated. He is only 25 has won the premiership and is 1st choice keeper for England. In my opinion he is one of the best goalkeepers in the league and easily the best keeper England has had since Seaman.
 
These are stats as of may 1st 2012 (last season)

Player Joe Hart David De Gea

Appearances 35 26

Minutes On Pitch 3150 2340

Goals Conceded 27 28

Min per Goal Conceded 117 84

Clean Sheets 15 11

Saves

Saves 93 92

Saves per game 2.7 3.5

Saves from Inside Box 48 43

Saves from Outside Box 45 49

Saves to Shots ratio 78% 77%

Catches

Punches 18 20

Catches 36 24

Dropped Catches 1 2

Catch Success Rate % 98% 96%

Kicks

Long Kicking Distribution 244 228

Kicking Success Rate % 45% 48%
 
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