I dont see your point. Regardless of how close they might be, If he has spoken to Ravel about a move before WHUFC have given him permission, then there is an infringement there.
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I dont see your point. Regardless of how close they might be, If he has spoken to Ravel about a move before WHUFC have given him permission, then there is an infringement there.
It's difficult to say what his weaknesses are.
He doesn't get bullied, has bags of pace, wins his headers, can pass the ball well and has good positional sense.
You can tell he's a tad inexperienced at times (take note of Derbys goal on saturday, the attacker lost him easily) and he can occaisionally let things get the better of him.
He loves Leicester and that can sometimes be his downfall. When he scored his first goal for the club he was apparently welling up on the pitch and had a very shaky 10 minutes after that. He was also sick on the side of the pitch during the last few minutes of the Forest game last season where a win would have put us into the playoffs.
If you were to sign him you'd need a very experienced player to guide him. We have Wes Morgan our captain who has been there and done it when it comes to the Football League. Those two together are, easily, the best central defensive pairing we've had at Leicester since we had the likes of Taggart, Walsh and Elliot and you could even say its the best the Championship has seen since Newcastle's Coloccini and Taylor pairing.
It is like the chicken and egg debate...
Would a club make a bid if the player has not said yes in principle, either directly or through an agent? I don't think so.
And the debate was "if" he has spoken to Morrison. If he has then yes, it is an infringement, but we don't know that. Would he come out and say what he said having tapped the player up? Very doubtful.
Either way it was a daft thing to say.
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Wel he hasn't priced morrison and moore well has he? He's been told to kindly **** off. Why would WHU sell their best player for 4m to a local and relegation rival or us top of the champ sell our top class homegrown defender for 2m? Maybe on fifa but not in the real world.
I tend to agree with you. Rene has offered fair prices, but given this is the January window and football is mental to begin with, they're never going to be enough.
Think he priced both of them very well. The seeds are in their heads. None of them worth any more than that. Maybe a £1m more and some add-ons.
I dont think its Rene in charge of negotiating the deal, the negotiating is mainly down to Mcintosh and Rene just makes his preferred targets known to Mcintosh who tries to bargain the most reasonable deal possible.
Dear oh dear. The reason transfers take a while is due to the negotiating period. Did you think Rene was going to straight up offer £10m+ for Morrison? Start off low and finish some way in the middle.
If he played like he did in his first season with Everton, oh my word yes. If he played like he has for the last 18 months, oh my word no. He's exactly the kind of striker that we shouldn't bet the farm on.
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Didn't realise you are a farmer Captain. Point taken, he has been injured though I think, if memory serves correct.
For Morrison we need to factor in the young English player premium. Liverpool (who are a basketcase in this respect) paid the same amount for Sterling at 16 as WH did for Morrison. Jack Butland went for £3.3m when a similar foreign keeper would have been under £1m. Chris Smalling went for a fair whack too. The only solace with the premium is that it doesn't completely erode - Carroll, hugely overpriced at £35m isn't even worth the £15m WH paid for him. If he was a foreign talent he would be £6-10m.
I'd say Rene's initial bid was slightly under Ravel's true value- but his English status essentially doubles his market value. It's the same with Will Hughes.
There were no questions put to Rene at the press conference today about Ravel Morrison - warned off beforehand presumably.
Rene did say in answer to a question that there had been no offers for Berbatov. He also confirmed Bryan's move and said that "there's a way back if he plays well". Rene's most telling comment though was:
"new managers have to play with a deck of cards that is not necessarily your deck of cards"
We can expect changes then but perhaps not in January??
Rene did say in answer to a question that there had been no offers for Berbatov. He also confirmed Bryan's move and said that "there's a way back if he plays well". Rene's most telling comment though was:
"new managers have to play with a deck of cards that is not necessarily your deck of cards"
We can expect changes then but perhaps not in January??
Smalling and Moore are in a very similar stage of their career. Both 20 years old, English CB/RB, Moore has more appearances but at a lower level. If we can demand 7-10 million for Smalling how can we expect 2 million to be enough for Moore?