Jake Livermore

I think it's very telling that the three posters with mental health illnesses are the people who are so against this decision.

I would say four posters but Typical Juan is beyond help, there's no diagnosis for that fruitcake.

I've been off my medication for 2-3 years now hence probably why I am sitting on the fence regarding this subject. :undecided:
 
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I've been off my medication for 2-3 years now hence probably why I am sitting on the fence regarding this subject. :undecided:
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Good mate <ok>

I refuse to take meds now, haven't took them for a while and can't see me ever going back to them. I'd rather suffer in silence then use any of this countries services again. That's for another thread though.
 
Can't argue with that pal, the doc told me to try some new meds 4 months ago, the prescription is still sat on top of my microwave at home. I feel like I will miss the old me if I fix my issues. Just making the most of being an absolute **** for now.
Meh, meds are overrated anyways. I've never been able to take them properly either, keep forgetting and ****.
 
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Hahaha ****wit... What's your thought's on the matter?
Ffs, just thought it was a funny thread between you pair of ***wits, is that ok? Lol. In all honesty I think a panel of decent blokes looked at his case and with all the facts in front of them they made a decision, which I think in his case was the right one. Cannot condone someone using cocaine, but with the sh*t he went through they gave him a break and that's OK with me, for what it's worth:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
It's all relative imo. The lad has had severe trauma. Different people cope with things like that in different was.
When my Janie died I was constantly on the piss to such an extent that I couldn't remember owt.
It didn't really help much because with me alcohol heightens whatever emotion I'm feeling but at least it got me some sleep.
I was the same when my ex miscarried.
I think the FA have called this right. I wish the lad well & hope he can recover from his demons.
He's gone through something that no parent should have to suffer & I don't think anybody should kick a man when he's on the floor like this lad will be.
ill follow Wild Bill on this one
 
He should have been banned imo. Deepest sympathies to the lad for his loss. But the precedent is set and it's there to be manipulated now. He could have chosen to not take it but he chose to do it. He decided he didn't give a **** anymore and when he did that he welcomed any punishment that resulted from his actions. The FA had a difficult ruling that they needed to make but they were weak and copped out of the right decision imo.

the FA are never weak with decisions on Sunderland we always get ****ed by them
 
If he's seeking help himself and brought that forward to the FA then I agree with their decision. Other players that have been banned? That's a question for the fa mate. I can certainly relate to his experience, you lose a family member and it's tough. I won't be questioning the bloke for using coccaine. All big ifs though. Hope he's getting the right help and wish him all the best!

Just starting through this thread, but that's a good post Aussie.

Like most parents on here, there but for the grace of God. I've no idea how I'd react. Hope never to find out.

My brother-in-law has lost 2 children out of 4 in the last 4 years. I have no idea how the man even gets out of bed everyday.
 
Just starting through this thread, but that's a good post Aussie.

Like most parents on here, there but for the grace of God. I've no idea how I'd react. Hope never to find out.

My brother-in-law has lost 2 children out of 4 in the last 4 years. I have no idea how the man even gets out of bed everyday.
That would definitely tip me over the edge I think. I admire that man for having the will to carry on.
He must have a lot of will & mental strength. I send him my best wishes.
 
Just starting through this thread, but that's a good post Aussie.

Like most parents on here, there but for the grace of God. I've no idea how I'd react. Hope never to find out.

My brother-in-law has lost 2 children out of 4 in the last 4 years. I have no idea how the man even gets out of bed everyday.
Mate that's terrible news, the poor bloke. Like bill said he must be mentally tough and much respect to him.
 
I haven't read through all four pages - just a few snippets here and there. My mate (goes to every home and away match) and his girlfriend lost their baby 3 days before she was due - had to give birth. He went to work on the next day. He grieved for her and said that it was the worst thing that has ever happened to him but he grieved and got on with his life. If he'd taken cocaine, he'd have been fired. Almost identical situation!

What gets me about this - how come, 6 months later, the excuse of "There was mitigating circumstances" comes out now? Why not when he did it? I don;t remember any news stories about it at the time? It's seems a little off that it's taken them this long to find that out! I have sympathy for losing a child but you need to be sensible enough in professional sport not to do things like that.

Why didn't the club come out and say this at the time? Or Livermore? as I saw on an earlier post, big can of worms opened. Do we know whether Mutu lost anyone close to him around the time of his drugs ban? No because he accepted the punishment and his club and manager didn't use it as an excuse. If my son or daughter got knocked over by someone on purpose and I went after that someone and beat the living daylights out of them and put them in hospital - would there be "mitigating circumstances" in the eyes of the police or would I be locked up? There is no mitigation, as a professional footballer, for breaking the rules/law. I don't know how I'd react but I'd expect to lose my job if I took class A drugs and then came to work! I'd also expect to be arrested!
 
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He got tested just a couple of days after his child sadly died. So he either ****ed his family off and went on a coke binge as soon as it happened or more likely, he's been taking it before then.
 
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He got tested just a couple of days after his child sadly died. So he either ****ed his family off and went on a coke binge as soon as it happened or more likely, he's been taking it before then.

Rio got tested two days after he 'missed' his appointment and was as clean as a whistle. He got banned for 8 months.
 
He got tested just a couple of days after his child sadly died. So he either ****ed his family off and went on a coke binge as soon as it happened or more likely, he's been taking it before then.

Off course hes taken it before. Hes a wealthy young man. I expect its rife amongst them.
 
Off course hes taken it before. Hes a wealthy young man. I expect its rife amongst them.

It's a bit ridiculous isn't it? The concept of him scrambling around for his first ever bag of coke after his child has just passed away? Strange concept ordering a stimulant class a whilst mourning.
 
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Off course hes taken it before. Hes a wealthy young man. I expect its rife amongst them.
It's a bit ridiculous isn't it? The concept of him scrambling around for his first ever bag of coke after his child has just passed away? Strange concept ordering a stimulant class a whilst mourning.
These are both bang on. I'm not looking down my nose at him either, I have took it back in the day. It's feeling more like he's used what happened as an excuse to get out of a ban. Sorry like, that's how it looks to me though
 
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Mate that's terrible news, the poor bloke. Like bill said he must be mentally tough and much respect to him.

He must be mate. We've discussed religion to death on here and many of us are against it on principle, including me. If it weren't for his religion though, I doubt he would have got through it as well as he has done.
 
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