Jack Cork

[Gregm88]

Are you f**ing kidding me?

3 million?

I can't believe what I'm reading. So we have to rely on kids or Wanyama, who time and time again gives away possession or fouls?

And we've already lost a right back, and JC can fill in there no problem.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

- We don't know for certain

- 3 million is because he is a midfielder who doesn't really create or score, who is in the last year of his contract in a position where we have several other players

- Our kids are supposed to be quite good and have started ahead of cork in preseason. Wanyama was one of the key reasons for our solid defence last year

- No he couldn't really effectively fill in at premier league level. I seem to remember ward prowse dropping back more often last year if forced

- Are there such thing as crazy pills?

 

[saintlyhero]

Not sure how this plays with all the recent statements about no more players leaving.

They said Morgan Schneiderlin & Jay Rodriguez would not be leaving

 

[Gregm88]

Not sure how this plays with all the recent statements about no more players leaving.

Was that actually a statement? Or was it only in response to Morgan and Rodriguez?

 

[JerseySaint]

Tadic can probably play CM at a push. He is apparently more of a central player than a wide player.

So can Gardos...but if he played there for a few games...we definitely need another good CB this window!

 

[lamby]

Yep maybe you are right. I suppose I just assumed they meant any first teamers. Maybe thats the answer, Ron doesnt see him as a main man.

 

[JerseySaint]

They said Morgan Schneiderlin & Jay Rodriguez would not be leaving

And I would suggest that refers to this window only...free to go in Jan

 

[Clem Fandango]

- We don't know for certain

- 3 million is because he is a midfielder who doesn't really create or score, who is in the last year of his contract in a position where we have several other players

- Our kids are supposed to be quite good and have started ahead of cork in preseason. Wanyama was one of the key reasons for our solid defence last year

- No he couldn't really effectively fill in at premier league level. I seem to remember ward prowse dropping back more often last year if forced

- Are there such thing as crazy pills?

As far as I remember (it wasn't that long ago!) last season that position was shared between Cork and Wanyama. We had many heated discussions on this board who the better player was, and the general consensus was that they are both effective in their own ways! To me this means Cork is equal Wanyama's value. On this very board Cork was voted as MOTM for several games, including the home draw vs Man City. I remember being him instrumental.

Of course this is all just my opinion, I'm just finding this very hard to take if turns out to be true. If it is then who's next? Rodriguez? Clyne?

 

[Piebacca]

As far as I remember (it wasn't that long ago!) last season that position was shared between Cork and Wanyama. We had many heated discussions on this board who the better player was, and the general consensus was that they are both effective in their own ways! To me this means Cork is equal Wanyama's value. On this very board Cork was voted as MOTM for several games, including the home draw vs Man City. I remember being him instrumental.

Of course this is all just my opinion, I'm just finding this very hard to take if turns out to be true. If it is then who's next? Rodriguez? Clyne?

You remember what happened when Wanyama got injured?

That's right, our defence got noticeably worse.

 

[Dan]

Probably not Rodriguez or Clyne because they're both important first teamers.

 

[Clem Fandango]

You remember what happened when Wanyama got injured?

That's right, our defence got noticeably worse.

Really? You want to have that discussion? Kind of irrelevant. Might as well say "You remember what our defence was like before we signed Lovren?".

 

[AshbySaint]

I like Cork, but we've now had 2 managers who don't rate him enough. Perhaps it's fairer to let him go if he is not going to get much game time.

We may not let Morgan, but is he going to be professional and give his all. I think Jack is a good player and certainly one we should hang on to

 

[Clem Fandango]

We may not let Morgan, but is he going to be professional and give his all. I think Jack is a good player and certainly one we should hang on to

I looked it up he made 25 Premier League appearances last season, as well as cup games. Not a fringe player by any means.

 

[Redboyce]

Cork is a neat player but nothing else. To me a CM player has got to weigh in with a minimum five goals a season and if my memory serves me correct, he's never scored in PL.

 

[AL.]

Would be very disappointed if he goes.

 

[Beef]

I looked it up he made 25 Premier League appearances last season, as well as cup games. Not a fringe player by any means.

What are we ment to do if he doesn't want to sign a new contract?

 

[Jose Fonte baby]

Cork's a really good player, but I can see why he's being let go. We have no one else like Wanyama to play the DM position, and he's competing with Schneiderlin and Taider for the deep-lying playmaker sort of role at CM. The other CM position will be for the more attacking players, such as Davis, JWP and Reed.

 

[Clem Fandango]

What are we ment to do if he doesn't want to sign a new contract?

Have a long hard look at ourselves and our transfer policies?

 

[Beef]

Have a long hard look at ourselves and our transfer policies?

In what way? Selling players that didn't want to be here and either acted a dick to get a move or had a clause in their contract? Or signing one cm on loan?

 

[Joe!]

Have a long hard look at ourselves and our transfer policies?

And our board's competence and relationship with the players.

 

[Lff]

I'm sure the people who think he's England quality will overreact to this.

React,yes. Over-react, no. Compare Cork to either Wanyama or Schneiderlin last year and he was consistently better than both.

Just watch Wanyama this season and see how often he gets into positions to receive the ball. It will hardly happen! Cork was always available and rarely gave the ball away. Yes, Wanyama is probably better sitting in front of the defence. Yes, Schneiderlin is better getting into threatening positions. But as a single package I would take Cork over either of them especially given Morgan's attitude at the moment.