It's looking up - maybe

[Rigsby]

Really the more I read the interview the more comical it is - doesn' anyone else see it this way. The biggest point to come out of it for me is that they will be doing the negotiating of contracts with signings etc. Does anyone honestly think they will do a good job when all the time they are wanting "value for money" etc.

I'm fairly sure with their business acumen they are very capable of negotiating a players contract.

 

[TONY_WARNERS_FACE.]

I think when it comes to AP, it was probably a case of him telling Assem how to a run a business and Assem turning around and saying "Hang on a minute, what the **** have you done?"

Ehab stated he'd be disappointed with anything outside of the top six. He trusted AP (too much IMO) and AP ultimately failed him.

 

[RicardoHCAFC]

I'm fairly sure with their business acumen they are very capable of negotiating a players contract.

I'm sure they're capable of negotiating a contract, but do they know the value of a player to be able to negotiate a football contract? Aside from the backhanders isn't that the problem we had with the last lot?

 

[Rigsby]

I'm sure they're capable of negotiating a contract, but do they know the value of a player to be able to negotiate a football contract? Aside from the backhanders isn't that the problem we had with the last lot?

The big difference is that the last lot had Paul Duffen using someone else's money to give out ridiculous contracts.

The Allams pay the cheques at the end of each month. They will negotiate contracts to suit the clubs salary policy.

The way people talk about them you'd think we had the Chuckle Brothers running things!

 

[Oregon Tiger]

Sorry if my use of the word offends you but hopefully you can consider what I meant and not just be pedantic.

as I said, no intent to say you were wrong. a lot of what you say may turn out to be correct but right now its mostly conjecture.

 

[Happy Tiger]

I'm sure they're capable of negotiating a contract, but do they know the value of a player to be able to negotiate a football contract? Aside from the backhanders isn't that the problem we had with the last lot?

You mean like Liverpool and their team of pro's valuing Carroll at 35 million quid?

I also think they're more than capable of valuing a player then negotiating a sensible price. Like they did when Leicester came back for NP. In fact, its a shame more clubs aren't run this way rather than just allowing agents to get stupid prices and wages for players.

 

[RicardoHCAFC]

You mean like Liverpool and their team of pro's valuing Carroll at 35 million quid?

I also think they're more than capable of valuing a player then negotiating a sensible price. Like they did when Leicester came back for NP. In fact, its a shame more clubs aren't run this way rather than just allowing agents to get stupid prices and wages for players.

They had a football person at the club when Leicester came for NP.

My concern is that our owners who admit to knowing nothing about football will be taken for a ride by agents of players worth £5k/wk and end up paying them say £8k/wk because they don't know the market values. It might not sound much , but you go from having 3 players for £15k/wk to only having 2 players and spending £16k/wk. Not good for the wage bill or the squad depth. The fact Liverpool got taken for a ride isn't really related to it, we had someone who knew fairly well what players were worth financially and now we don't so it becomes a concern.

Personally I don't think we'll see much business before the managerial position is sorted out, firstly the above, but there's also no point buying/selling players if the new manager doesn't want that decision taking. Imagine having a bid for Fryatt and McLean, deciding to sell McLean as he scored less, and then finding out your preferred manager wanted McLean to stay as a wide striker but wanted to replace Fryatt with a bigger targetman type in the middle.

 

[WSTiger]

You mean like Liverpool and their team of pro's valuing Carroll at 35 million quid?

I also think they're more than capable of valuing a player then negotiating a sensible price. Like they did when Leicester came back for NP. In fact, its a shame more clubs aren't run this way rather than just allowing agents to get stupid prices and wages for players.

Yes its way easier to spend someone elses money than it is your own. The Allams certainly should have the biggest say in who the clubs buys and what wages they pay them. As Harry said the buck stops here.

 

[4thGenerationTiger]

Thats this generation in a thread summed up for you, the club has it's heart ripped out and it's 'lets just carry on as if it doesn't matter'. 'Lets just get another manager and have done with it, we buy our passes and we don't care'. Well **** that, I'm not donating my money to a circus next season, i support charities and they can get my money instead of these jokers. You either make a stand and have some principles or you act like a pussy and turn the other cheek. Let's see what happens.

Yer I'm with you mate! No-one renew your passes or buy tickets! then in a couple of years we can all spend our saturdays standing in an empty field with our principles and no club!

No one buys passes, clubs makes no money, club goes bust, club dies, no more Hull city AFC. You think letting the club go bust is the answer? Think this'll get rid of owners? if that happens who the hell is gonna buy a club that no-one goes to see? Think they'll buy a club thats making no money because there maybe people sat at home with principles waiting for them?

People by passes and tickets for the club, not the Allams, because they want the club to do well and survive

 

[Craigo]

Not Fact, speculation.

Who says that AP and NB are the two most important members of the club staff? AP isn't on the club staff, he is an independent consultant. What exactly does he do? NB has performed to a standard that can best be described as "average" we are just above mid table with one of the bigest wage bills in the division (not his fault I grant you).

Some of the players are "reported" to be disgusted. Some may be pleased to see the back of AP and/or NB (Jay Simpson for example)

We don't know it was a fit of petulance (though at least one of the parties has a history of losing their temper with players). It's not a Fact it's speculation.

Yes the Allams have said they won't sell the best players, yes those are words, what else do you expect? The Bible is Words, The Koran is Words Exactly. Words are pretty powerful things.

Yes they have said the club is not for sale. Yep, words again but the only proof you are going to get is that they don't sell the players and they don't sell the club. So far they've kept their word (and spent £50m doing so)

Neither AP nor NB have actually said they didn't get money in January. NB actually said he couldn't find anybody better than he had in the squad.

Yes, they say they are still interested in promotion, as they bloody well should be, as we all should be. Was AP? he actually admitted if he had been in charge in our promotion season, that he doubted we would have gone up. Now that's a fact for you.

Seems to me that you have swallowed the anti Allam rhetoric Hook, Line and Sinker. Gullible or what? Yes I'm afraid you are.

You obviously accept everything the Allam's say and disregard the input of NB (said to be gutted), AP (very disappointed), Rosenior (disgusted) and on this board OLM and PT.
Maybe you should ask why you feel these people are all misguided and only Assam has a monopoly of the truth.
BTW If we had a vote on who the most important staff at the club were a few days ago (obviously not including the owners) there's a good chance NB and AP would have finished top.