It's A TEAM Game

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notsosmartspur said:
We've had good teams before, even recently, but good teams still get those games that just don't go for you, faffing around the oppo's box doing nothing, before, we lost and drew these games, we now have a player in Bale who can salvage a result, and has done, the very thing missing for years and now we talk about letting him go at the first bit of pressure for him and being better off.

<yikes> is all I can say, oh, and **** off Real!
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The only reason I've given up on him staying is because I believe Bale wants to go, and Madrid know he wants to go and they will offer a world record fee, can any chairman in world football turn down 80 million plus for a player that wants to leave? not even Levy could do that, could he?

I'll love it if he could, as Bale could still give us another year at least, from what I remember Utd told Madrid to do one the first they they tried to lure Ronaldo, so I would hope Bale has enough respect for us and the manager to put it all behind him if Levy decides to keep him as for all this talk of balance, if we have balance and Bale, then we will be a much greater team.
 
Boss said:
Well said, All this "balance" and lack of creativity from midfield, of course there is a little Tom Carroll who will sit on the bench and be thinking "i can do what these players are attempting to do, with my eyes closed" but until he drinks more protein shakes he will just be ignored and have to shout much louder to get his chance!!
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I don't doubt that carroll has an excellent future ahead of him. He's breaking his way through and will be this exact type of "creative" player. But he's just not quite ready yet. We need to sign someone he can learn from, should bale leave. That way, we have 2 players who can use their intelligence in a game, who we'll be able to rotate, as well as have cover for, should 1 of them get injured.
 
Roo said:
I don't doubt that carroll has an excellent future ahead of him. He's breaking his way through and will be this exact type of "creative" player. But he's just not quite ready yet. We need to sign someone he can learn from, should bale leave. That way, we have 2 players who can use their intelligence in a game, who we'll be able to rotate, as well as have cover for, should 1 of them get injured.
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For me players are ready based on what they bring to the team and while Carroll isn't the finished product, he is ready to make more of an impact, yet of course that doesn't mean we should all of a sudden rely on him, but football is such a simple a game, you don't need 5 years of experience or a big build to make a simple pass or create chances so as long as Tom is given a proper chance this season then I'll be happy.
 
Boss said:
For me players are ready based on what they bring to the team and while Carroll isn't the finished product, he is ready to make more of an impact, yet of course that doesn't mean we should all of a sudden rely on him, but football is such a simple a game, you don't need 5 years of experience or a big build to make a simple pass or create chances so as long as Tom is given a proper chance this season then I'll be happy.
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totally agree mate <ok>
 
Boss said:
The only reason I've given up on him staying is because I believe Bale wants to go, and Madrid know he wants to go and they will offer a world record fee, can any chairman in world football turn down 80 million plus for a player that wants to leave? not even Levy could do that, could he?

I'll love it if he could, as Bale could still give us another year at least, from what I remember Utd told Madrid to do one the first they they tried to lure Ronaldo, so I would hope Bale has enough respect for us and the manager to put it all behind him if Levy decides to keep him as for all this talk of balance, if we have balance and Bale, then we will be a much greater team.
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Until someone can put a figure on what Bale is worth next season commercially, its impossible to say, but selling him is not the only source of money from him is all I'm saying. I care not one jot if he wants to go, you're right CR7 was held back a year, Modric wanted to go aswell, and once he got his little 'my heads not right' tantrum out the way he played well for us. At the end of last season Bale was happy to stay, in no rush with his career, blah blah. Things change I know, but in this short space of time??
 
Spurf said:
Beckhamitus! That's the disease that affects the media in modern times. The cult of so called personality although many of their chosen ones seem devoid of any sort of personality in the true sense of the word. Beckham is the classic case, hyped out of all proportion to his abilities in his chosen sport.

It's worth reminding ourselves in the midst of the media frenzy surrounding Bale that yes he is a stand out player (far superior to Beckham) but he is just one player in a team.

I know from personal experience that a team with one stand out player often does not play as well as a balanced one. The best example is Maradona at Barcalona. Venables arrives as manager and immediately sells him off with the comment: Football is a team game. Now I'm not going to argue with Venables, especially when I had personal experience of what happens in just such a situation. No! I didn't play for Barca! <cool>

We already have seen this start to happen at Spurs in the second half of last season. The team began to look for Bale, get the ball to Bale became the ethos. Sure, he can and did perform some amazing feats but whether we would have needed his get out of jail goals at all if we had used the full range of our talented squad is arguable.

Bale in my eyes was causing us a problem and as many critics said, we were becoming a one man team. The trouble being if such a talent is available on the pitch why would you not give him the ball.

The key for me is a balanced team. I'd much rather have a quality well balanced squad where all the players feel valued than 10 men trying to support their 'star'.

The team wins everytime for me, it's a TEAM GAME.
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Dortmund are modern day proof that you don't need to have a load of "stars" to have success. 18 months ago nobody could even name a Dortmund player.

The pool of talent is shrinking (undoubtedly) but it seems most clubs are trying to channel their efforts into buying a group of players that work well rather than big names. Even Chelsea are doing it

That said I still think you will be weaker without Bale. You need to keep him to have a chance of top 4. Lennon's stats are poor but he is very effective. Soldado and Defoe would take the pressure off Bale (if he stayed) and I assume Dembele would play in an advanced role given Sandro is back and Paulinho has been bought.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
They could, they just couldn't spell or pronounce it properly.
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The "Little Englander" types couldn't, but they could name you every Bayern player despite the fact Dortmund slapped them that season. Not even gonna begin to try and spell the names of the players so don't get me started :bandit:
 
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