Off Topic IS VIDEO ASSISTANT REFEREE WORKING?

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Video Assistant referee good or bad?

  • Stop using it

    Votes: 4 25.0%

  • Continue Using it?

    Votes: 12 75.0%

  • I don't really care

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .
I had my issues with var, but after I must admit I'm converted, I think its been implemented very well.

If the descion is obvious they call it quite quickly, if it's not obvious they tend to go with the refs initial reaction (like the penalty) rather than spin it out for ages looking at multiple angles and speeds.

I tend to agree with the handball rule change as well, if it's in the box it doesn't matter if its intentional or not. If the rule hadn't been changed, car has then got to start making judgements about intention, which is not what it's for, it's very good at black and white.
 
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THE FOOL said:
I had my issues with var, but after I must admit I'm converted, I think its been implemented very well.

If the descion is obvious they call it quite quickly, if it's not obvious they tend to go with the refs initial reaction (like the penalty) rather than spin it out for ages looking at multiple angles and speeds.

I tend to agree with the handball rule change as well, if it's in the box it doesn't matter if its intentional or not. If the rule hadn't been changed, car has then got to start making judgements about intention, which is not what it's for, it's very good at black and white.
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THE FOOL said:
I had my issues with var, but after I must admit I'm converted, I think its been implemented very well.

If the descion is obvious they call it quite quickly, if it's not obvious they tend to go with the refs initial reaction (like the penalty) rather than spin it out for ages looking at multiple angles and speeds.

I tend to agree with the handball rule change as well, if it's in the box it doesn't matter if its intentional or not. If the rule hadn't been changed, car has then got to start making judgements about intention, which is not what it's for, it's very good at black and white.
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Isn't one of its selling points that it helps with the less obvious decisions though?
The issue that I've maintained all along is that to properly analyse difficult incidents it has to take time, and it's that disruption to the flow of the game that is the main problem. So far, the way it has been implemented has had a minimal effect on the flow - that's good, but isn't it at the expense of the very precision that it was brought in to ensure?
If the fall-back option is to just go with the ref's initial ruling, then why have it at all, except for clear black-and-white issues like offside? I feel that even that side of it is causing irritation amongst players - not having the decision made instantly and being made to carry on playing.
I understand the "clear and obvious error" stipulation, but I think many of its supporters were expecting it to clear up a lot of the subjectivity in decision-making, an idea I've always considered a bit optimistic.
Maybe it will settle down, we'll have to wait and see.
I can see some good in it, but I still have doubts over the pros and cons.
 
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Isn't one of its selling points that it helps with the less obvious decisions though?
The issue that I've maintained all along is that to properly analyse difficult incidents it has to take time, and it's that disruption to the flow of the game that is the main problem. So far, the way it has been implemented has had a minimal effect on the flow - that's good, but isn't it at the expense of the very precision that it was brought in to ensure?
If the fall-back option is to just go with the ref's initial ruling, then why have it at all, except for clear black-and-white issues like offside? I feel that even that side of it is causing irritation amongst players - not having the decision made instantly and being made to carry on playing.
I understand the "clear and obvious error" stipulation, but I think many of its supporters were expecting it to clear up a lot of the subjectivity in decision-making, an idea I've always considered a bit optimistic.
Maybe it will settle down, we'll have to wait and see.
I can see some good in it, but I still have doubts over the pros and cons.
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I know what your saying, my biggest issue was how long it would take and whether it would disrupt the game, but so far it's been mostly seamless.

As can be seen on here, an incident can be argued over for days, with some falling one way, others falling the other. It will hopefully stop obvious dives, but sometimes you just can't tell. It's a judgement call on levels of contact, which might as well stay with the ref.

I think the penalty that was given last night was a good example, nobody surrounded the ref, there was no demonstration, every one knew it would go to var and if there was contact it's a penalty, if not it wouldn't be.

It may and will over simplify the rules in some cases, but it's a price I'm willing to pay for more correct descions
 
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A new law this season states that any player entering the VAR room is a straight red.

The Premier League’s VAR room is in Stockley Park, 13 miles from the nearest PL ground.

Any player making it there during a game to moan about a decision deserves a medal.
 
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THE FOOL said:
I know what your saying, my biggest issue was how long it would take and whether it would disrupt the game, but so far it's been mostly seamless.

As can be seen on here, an incident can be argued over for days, with some falling one way, others falling the other. It will hopefully stop obvious dives, but sometimes you just can't tell. It's a judgement call on levels of contact, which might as well stay with the ref.

I think the penalty that was given last night was a good example, nobody surrounded the ref, there was no demonstration, every one knew it would go to var and if there was contact it's a penalty, if not it wouldn't be.

It may and will over simplify the rules in some cases, but it's a price I'm willing to pay for more correct descions
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I've only seen a handful of games so far this season. In my opinion: Adrián on Abraham was not a penalty; Adrián came off his line in the shoot-out and it should have been re-taken; City should have had a penalty on Saturday.
I've read that there have been other debatable decisions in games that I haven't seen.
I don't want to take an entrenched view on it, but I don't think it is clearing up controversy to the extent that its proponents envisaged.

On a side note, I thought Pogba was going down in anticipation of contact on Monday, I only saw one replay of it, so I'm not sure. Nobody else seems to have mentioned it, so perhaps I was wrong.
 
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