Once the referee makes a call, very difficult to be reversed by VAR, example is the penalty in the champion league final against Tottenham. Glen Hoddle never convinced it was a penalty, so also many Tottenham supporters.
I have completely flipped on it Just get rid Tried it Solved some **** Ruined some **** Let’s just get back to arguing about the offside rule Don’t even trust goal line tech now as it depends when they stop the footage So nope get rid of it all and get back to brown paper envelopes
I was reading that they've suspended refs cautioning keepers for moving on the line for a penalty just until the women's WC is over. They said VAR will be a bigger deterrent than ref giving yellow .... go figure. Also noticed the new rules coming in for next season say keeper isn't required to have both feet on the line for a penalty. Edit: more rule changes ... (apologies if already posted) Attacking players have to be 1m away from 'defensive wall' At goal kick or free kick for defending team in their own penalty area, the ball is in play once it's kicked I.e. it doesn't have to leave the penalty area Players being substituted have to leave the field at nearest point on boundary line
The new rules all seem ok to me and will help the game. The only one they have wrong is the off-side rule, this was meant to stop a player getting an unfair advantage (think Allan Clarke) by "goal hanging" permanently. These days it penalises players who just happen to be a bit faster or sharper off the mark than their opposite defender, one toe off side is not trying to gain an unfair advantage, neither is a player running toward goal at a free kick when the defenders are running out. These are examples of poor defending and nothing more.
ex spurs player really!! so if other way round and they got decision, not a pen then?!!!! was a pen any day, you don't raise your arm in the area for any reason, wasn't even jumping, so cant use that as a piss poor excuse either!
Its not. You can only be offside with a part of s body that you can touch the ball with, so hands make no diff. The England one you’re referring to, her foot was in front of the defender which mad eher offside.
Agree with this. My main problem is when refs stop it to go over and look themselves. They’ve got how many officials in the VAR room? Like cricket if it’s referred to them, they should make the decision, tell the onfiekd ref the decision abd he can give it. No reason for the ref to go view it himself. No no idea why that is the case, if it’s because the onfiekd refs will feel some what inferior for having their decision overridden then they need to get over thrmlseves. Works perfectly fine in cricket.
2 points about the cricket analogy 1. The 3rd umpire decisions are mainly matters of fact as decided by technology where ,as apart from offside, in football they are subjective 2. On LBW ,when it is borderline, you have umpires call decision which you could say is a similar attempt to keep the onfield official relevant.
i agree, i think it's an ego thing personally (like some refs need encouragement lol) , oh look at me i'm going to look at var
yep, even if hitting wicket its the on field umpire who made decision so still stands, has worked both ways and players don't have a problem with it, pissed off decision didn't go there way, yes, but accept it. football too many grey areas creeping in
The one unknown is what the var refs are saying to the onfield ref. They may instruct the ref to view it for themselves. Don't all 3 video refs have to agree before calling it,?
but football has always been full of grey areas i.e. foul / fair tackle , backing in / climbing all over attacker etc
but cricket was until they brought var in, from lbw's that from replays shown hit bat etc first, so shouldn't have been given, it's how you use it that matters. also the people who use var are they ex footballers experts etc, as in cricket they are usually ex umpires aren't they? makes a big dif if you ask me.
the 3rd umpire makes no decision on LBW he just relays the answer provided by ultra edge , hawkeye etc .
its really simple lads. cricket applies Common sense after a few efforts. so why reinvent the wheel a) if foot over line or not. if yes not out straight off. b) is ball pitching in line or not. yes or no. clearly visible. c) use impact tech. hot spot or snicko. evidence of bat hitting ball or not. this takes longest. d) final call. is it hitting or not. and here common sense is applied. umpire makes his call and the impact has to be very very clear not just a maybe. if it's marginal and umpire said out well tough you are out. now compare to football. a) fifa premise is the ref is god. from this perspective they force final decision to be refs and so demand refs see a screen etc b) fifa tell linesmen to not flag.. thats just don't make a decision. c) fifa create no margin of error so it takes several minutes of trying to make best guess to make a call and agree it. Surely if the ref and linesmen make their calls and you develop a set of rules that demand clear evidence. e.g.. this pen for handball ****. how close is too close. what is unnatural arm position. etc etc etc. define it and have common sense. if a guy is 2 or 3 yards away from ball then show a modicum of common sense. or offside. draw your line but have some form of grey zone. if you are every close or down to debating who's toe or dick was closer to the goal then simply go with on field decisions. I would stop reviewing everything now. it's getting farcical. give each team a couple of reviews and let them decide what on field decision needs to be reviewed. if a side chooses to waste them or not use them that's their own fault.
I wouldn't go that far mate. they go through a sequence and make a call. if they find a reason to over turn they tell on field umpire to overturn. yes they are guided by the sequence but in the end the decision is no longer the on field umpire. he is either vindicated or over ruled and nobody thinks worse of him and it never undermines authority.
