Off Topic International Break Thread

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Crazy yellow card for the Albanian attempting an overhead kick. I've said more than once on here that surely all overhead kicks are dangerous because you're putting a boot at head height, but no, everyone says that's ok. So what's the difference with this one? The England defenders might have headbutted each other, and the Albanian gets a yellow. So the laws of the game seem to be that if you score it's not a yellow, but if you don't it is.
 
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vimhawk said:
Crazy yellow card for the Albanian attempting an overhead kick. I've said more than once on here that surely all overhead kicks are dangerous because you're putting a boot at head height, but no, everyone says that's ok. So what's the difference with this one? The England defenders might have headbutted each other, and the Albanian gets a yellow. So the laws of the game seem to be that if you score it's not a yellow, but if you don't it is.
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I guess don't do it when there isn't space to do so. The yellow was right for me.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
You missed the words “for England “.
Should pass Rooney before or during the World Cup.
He could realistically get 75+ goals before he’s done.
But he won’t pass Shearer in the PL, I don’t think.
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Rooney shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Brilliant when he came on the scene but never reached the potential everyone seemed to think was possible. Received far more international caps than she should have.
 
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Wales play tomorrow.
 
vimhawk said:
Rooney shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Brilliant when he came on the scene but never reached the potential everyone seemed to think was possible. Received far more international caps than she should have.
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Not sure I get the Rooney slander here. Granted he hung around on the international scene too long but that was as much the fault of managers as it was him. The England setup was rotten for years before Southgate breathed new life into it. Kane will likely smash his record in less caps. But at club level he won everything for United and showed in his career that he could do literally everything asked of him as a player. Off the pitch his history is chequered of course but as a footballer he was a phenomenal player. Never the level of a Messi or Ronaldo but we may never see their like again, especially when you consider their records in Spain.
 
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vimhawk said:
Rooney shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath. Brilliant when he came on the scene but never reached the potential everyone seemed to think was possible. Received far more international caps than she should have.
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In Rooney's defence, he was often playing in dysfunctional squads.
He was part of that dysfunction, of course, but they were less than the sum of their parts.
I'm not a big fan of Southgate, but he's getting results and performances from lesser players.
Making the likes of Rooney, Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard and the like look **** is something else.
 
SpursDisciple said:
For now
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Yes, but that was the point. Kane should pass him in the next year or so.
PleaseNotPoll said:
In Rooney's defence, he was often playing in dysfunctional squads.
He was part of that dysfunction, of course, but they were less than the sum of their parts.
I'm not a big fan of Southgate, but he's getting results and performances from lesser players.
Making the likes of Rooney, Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard and the like look **** is something else.
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They all wanted to play in and around the same area of the pitch. Putting round pegs on square holes wasn’t the answer to selection.
Southgate has a similar dilemma with right backs - the reality is you can’t play them all. You have to rotate players occasionally, use subs creatively and rest players too - not try to pick them all, some out of position, just because they are good enough to be picked and they have to be shoehorned into the team somehow.
 
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The Huddlefro said:
Not sure I get the Rooney slander here. Granted he hung around on the international scene too long but that was as much the fault of managers as it was him. The England setup was rotten for years before Southgate breathed new life into it. Kane will likely smash his record in less caps. But at club level he won everything for United and showed in his career that he could do literally everything asked of him as a player. Off the pitch his history is chequered of course but as a footballer he was a phenomenal player. Never the level of a Messi or Ronaldo but we may never see their like again, especially when you consider their records in Spain.
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Rooney was a fantastic player.

I’d agree with the point he probably could’ve been even better from an individual standpoint but nonetheless he was worthy of being labelled world class and one of the best of his era.

I think, similar to Kane now, he’s part of the obsession for English fans and media to constantly look for the negatives despite being so good. When you see how Brazil cherish Neymar or Portugal do Ronaldo, why can’t this country just enjoy its best players? Sterling’s another that suffers from it, especially the media, they’ll do anything they can to ruin that guy.
 
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Argentina won 1-0 in Uruguay with Di Maria scoring the only goal in the 7th minute.
Lo Celso started and played 76 minutes until he was subbed off for some bloke called Messi.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
In Rooney's defence, he was often playing in dysfunctional squads.
He was part of that dysfunction, of course, but they were less than the sum of their parts.
I'm not a big fan of Southgate, but he's getting results and performances from lesser players.
Making the likes of Rooney, Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard and the like look **** is something else.
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Insisting that a Gerrard/Lampard pivot would work goes a long reason to explaining that
 
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